matthews@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Dave Matthews) (05/04/87)
> Subject: Re: more RE: Stepping Out > > Subject: Stepping Out DEMO from Berkeley Systems Designs > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Are those the same people who created UNIX BSD? If so then Stepping Out is > probably a good product. Don't know. For what it's worth, the demo is very professional-looking and their address is 1708 Shattuck Avenue Berkeley CA 94709 (415)540-5537 Functionality-wise, I'm finding it a bit awkward. I'm used to being able to throw the mouse around without worrying about the cursor hitting the edge of the screen. Except in WriteNow, which scrolls horizontally if you bang into the sides. Stepping Out does the same thing, but vertically too and instead of scrolling in the window, it MOVES the window (,the menu bar, etc: the whole screen). VERY quickly. This isn't very useful in applications that don't support large windows (VersaTerm, where I am right now, f'rinstance), but I can't wait to try it in MacDraw. -- Dave Matthews In real life: anonymous ARPA: matthews@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu USENET:...{cmcl2,shasta,uw-beaver,rochester}!cornell!tcgould!matthews BELL: 607-533-7820 DISCL: My employer ignores my opinions altogether.
klein%gravity@Sun.COM (Mike Klein) (05/05/87)
In article <879@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> matthews@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu.UUCP (Dave Matthews) writes: > Subject: Re: more RE: Stepping Out > > Subject: Stepping Out DEMO from Berkeley Systems Designs > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Are those the same people who created UNIX BSD? If so then Stepping Out is > probably a good product. Huh? The BSD in "UNIX x.xBSD" stands for Berkeley Software Distribution, and it comes from the University of California at Berkeley's Computer Science Division, which is definitely not the same thing as Berkeley Systems Designs. I presume, although I'm guessing, that Berkeley Systems Designs is riding on the coattails of the well-known "BSD" initials. -- Mike Klein klein@Sun.COM Sun Microsystems, Inc. {ucbvax,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo}!sun!klein Mountain View, CA
munson@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (05/05/87)
> Subject: Re: more RE: Stepping Out > > Subject: Stepping Out DEMO from Berkeley Systems Designs > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Are those the same people who created UNIX BSD? If so then Stepping Out is > probably a good product. Unfortunately for them, Berkeley Systems Designs did not create 4.x bsd UNIX (trademark of AT&T, etc.). bsd UNIX was designed here at the UC Berkeley CS Division. The system has never been farmed out to a corporation, as many university generated products are. It is possible that some people in Berkeley Systems Designs came from the CS program here, but I don't think any of the really well known Berkeley graduates are there. Ethan Munson CS Graduate Student, UCB munson@ernie.berkeley.edu ...!ucbvax!ernie!munson