sarrel@osu-eddie.UUCP (Marc Sarrel) (05/20/87)
I have a macplus. I've figured out that the arrow keys move you up and down in the standard file dialog and that enter or return opens the selected file or folder. But, is there some way to move up the directory tree? Also, what other keys do anything interesting here? advTHANKSance for answering a silly question.
tecot@apple.UUCP (05/21/87)
In article <3570@osu-eddie.UUCP> sarrel@osu-eddie.UUCP (Marc Sarrel) writes: >I have a macplus. I've figured out that the arrow keys move you up and down >in the standard file dialog and that enter or return opens the selected file >or folder. But, is there some way to move up the directory tree? Also, what >other keys do anything interesting here? > >advTHANKSance for answering a silly question. Not a silly question at all... Standard file permits all sorts of shortcuts. Typing a file name will go to it (it works like I-search in emacs). Command down-arrow and command up-arrow move you through the heirarchy. Tab is identical to pressing the drive button. Most of these also work in the save dialog as well. The exceptions are enter and return (saves the file, use command down-arrow to open a folder), and typing a file's name (goes in the file name box instead of selecting, use arrows to select a folder). _emt
korn@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Peter "Arrgh" Korn) (05/21/87)
In article <803@apple.UUCP> tecot@apple.UUCP (Ed Tecot) writes: > >Not a silly question at all... Standard file permits all sorts of shortcuts. >Typing a file name will go to it (it works like I-search in emacs). >... >Most of these also work in the save dialog as well. The exceptions are >enter and return (saves the file, use command down-arrow to open a folder), >and typing a file's name (goes in the file name box instead of selecting, >use arrows to select a folder). Every time I save a file, invariably I want to save it to a folder other than the current folder. Not having a plus keyboard (actually, not having any computer for the moment), I had no arrow keys to use. So, I decided that 'they way to do it' would be to use option-letter or command-letter to go through the files. 'cept that I didn't get off my duff and write a replacement save dialog before my computer went away (I've a loaner now, but one doesn't do development work on a machine w/only 400K of disk). Does anyone out there have such a save dialog? Peter ----- Peter "Arrgh" Korn Hacker? Me? A hacker? No, actually korn@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU I'm a mac-er. All's we do is {decvax,dual,hplabs,sdcsvax,ulysses}!ucbvax!korn make library calls.
olson@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (olson) (05/21/87)
In article <803@apple.UUCP> tecot@apple.UUCP (Ed Tecot) writes: >In article <3570@osu-eddie.UUCP> sarrel@osu-eddie.UUCP (Marc Sarrel) writes: >> (asks about what keys do what in standard file dialogs) > > (lists a few of the keys and their actions) So, are any of these written down somewhere?????? I recently got the newROM/800kdiskdrive for my mac. I was given a disk with the new system/finder. But I was not given any indication what was possible beyond point and click. I suppose I could treat it like an adventure game ... But since I do read manuals (yes it is true. some are even pleasant to read) I would really like it if Apple (or some other enterprising sole) would write LEAFLETS for each of the nice new things they make for us. For example, we could have leaflets on using Standard file ver???, KeyCaps ver???, Chooser, ControlPanel, etc. Other venders could get in on the act also. In fact, if Apple acts fast they could set the standard for the leaflet format. Then we could all know the tricks. (Of course if you like discovering on your own, don't read the leaflets.:-) ) The advantages of leaflets should be obvious (over a comprehensive manual). They are modular, reflecting the modular nature of the software. They are easy to upgrade; you don't face the question of how much of the manual goes out of date before you print a new version. In fact, if they are one page as most of them could be, then Apple doesn't even have to print them, they just prepare them in some standard format, and mail/post copies to the appropriate places. Then people that provide upgrades just print what they need and give them to the customer at upgrade time. (or charge the 6cents it costs to run off a copy). Or they could be down loaded off the nets. So what do you say? (I'm down on my knees, begging you please, make leaflets ...) Todd Olson ARPA: olson@lasspvax.tn.cornell.edu ----- or ---- ARPA: olson@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu UUCP: {ihnp4,allegra,...}!cornell!lasspvax!olson US Mail: Dept Physics, Clark Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York 14853-2501
mrh@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU (Marc Hannah) (05/22/87)
In article <3570@osu-eddie.UUCP>, sarrel@osu-eddie.UUCP (Marc Sarrel) writes: > I have a macplus. I've figured out that the arrow keys move you up and down > in the standard file dialog and that enter or return opens the selected file > or folder. But, is there some way to move up the directory tree? Also, what > other keys do anything interesting here? This is one of my favorite topics! I love using key equivalents in standard file. Here are some of the nice things: * typing first few characters of file you want will scroll to it * return or enter will open file or folder level * tab is equivalent to DRIVE button * command-uparrow will move you up one folder level * arrow keys will move you thru the file list * command-. will cancel (ADDED WITH SYSTEM 4.1!!!!) As far as I can tell, every feature of standard file can be done via the keyboard. With the SFPutFile dialogs you can do all the above EXCEPT typing the first few letters of a file will put those letters into the name you will save your file as so I use the arrow keys to find the folder I am looking for. David Gelphman daveg%slacvm.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu
lsr@apple.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) (05/22/87)
In article <1094@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> olson@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu.UUCP (olson) writes: > >So, are any of these written down somewhere?????? > >But since I do read manuals (yes it is true. some are even pleasant to read) >I would really like it if Apple (or some other enterprising sole) would write >LEAFLETS for each of the nice new things they make for us. For example, we >could have leaflets on using Standard file ver???, KeyCaps ver???, Chooser, >ControlPanel, etc. Other venders could get in on the act also. In fact, >if Apple acts fast they could set the standard for the leaflet format. Then >we could all know the tricks. (Of course if you like discovering on your own, >don't read the leaflets.:-) ) This is done to some extent. The new System software comes with a program called TeachText and a file called Read Me. This file explains the new features of System 4.1. A lot of people don't see this info, because they download the System software from a BBS, and don't bother to get everything. Users can print the file or view it on the screen as appropriate. -- Larry Rosenstein Object Specialist Apple Computer AppleLink: Rosenstein1 UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!lsr CSNET: lsr@Apple.CSNET
olson@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (olson) (05/24/87)
In article <816@apple.UUCP> lsr@apple.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) writes: >In article <1094@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> olson@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu.UUCP (olson) writes: >> >>So, are any of these written down somewhere?????? >> >>I would really like it if Apple (or some other enterprising sole) would write >>LEAFLETS for each of the nice new things they make for us. > >This is done to some extent. The new System software comes with a program >called TeachText and a file called Read Me. This file explains the new >features of System 4.1. > >-- >Larry Rosenstein >Apple Computer Well... Glad to see that Apple noticed the problem and did something about it. Thanks very much. (Now all I have to do is get the "new system" When I got the new roms a month ago I was give sys3.2/finder5.3 (at Cornell)) Todd Olson ARPA: olson@lasspvax.tn.cornell.edu ----- or ---- ARPA: olson@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu UUCP: {ihnp4,allegra,...}!cornell!lasspvax!olson US Mail: Dept Physics, Clark Hall, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York 14853-2501