[comp.sys.mac] Mac II horrors

rs4u+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Richard Siegel) (07/13/87)

THis morning, I carried my hard drive from my Mac Plus
to a newly acquired Mac II. I hooked everything up, turned
on the disk, waited 10 seconds, and turned on the Mac II. 
Whiole the Mac was booting, I moved the keyboard to a more
comfortable position; in the process, the
keyboard cable snagged (not my fault; I've alread shot
the installer), and the keyboard got disconnected.
The Mac II stopped dead in its tracks. Screen went dark,
disk stopped running. So I turn everything off, 
reroute the cables from the keyboard, and
fire everything up. No response from the hard drive.
The Mac II sits there and blinks the question mark, so
I stick in a floppy. The system boots; I get
the floppy's icon, then I get the message: "This is
not a Macintosh disk; do you want to initialize it?"

After some sincere curses, I click "Cancel". I fire up 
the Apple HD SC Setup (I'm using HD 20SC), and initialize
the hard disk. But when I quit to the Finder, the Hard drive's
icon doesn't appear! So I go back intoh HD SC setup, and
it says that my hard disk (SCSI 5) is not a Macintosh-format
hard disk.

So I carry the whole deal back to my Plus, and restore the
hard disk (DiskFit is *wonderful*). Then I go back to the
Mac II, hook up everything, and power on.
This time, I get a System Error 33 on startup. I click Restart,
and once again, my hard disk is destroyed!

Why is my hard disk getting ruined?! Here's the background:

	Mac II with 1mb memory, one floppy drive.
	Apple Extended Keyboard
	Apple Hard Disk 20SC (platinum) set to SCSI address 5
	Apple 12" monochrome monitor
	Apple Video Card

The software:

	System 4.1
	Finder 5.5
	Hard Disk SC Setup version 1.3

I don't have any strange startup software; the only INIT
I have is for LaserSpeed (a LaserWriter print spooler).
I suspect that this INIT *may* have caused the system error, 
but why? I've since un-installed it, but
I'm not especially interested in risking the information
on my hard disk
again.

I didn't actually lose anything, since I backed up the hard drive
before moving it, but it is a real inconvenience to restore
a hard disk; it takes a while.

Can anyone offer help? Has anyone had a similar problem?
I remember hearing about problems with early hard disks
on the SE; is this possibly related?

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

		--Rich

spector@acf3.NYU.EDU (David HM Spector) (07/14/87)

You didn't really init the disk, did you?  We had that happen to a macII
here, its seems that all that was needed to be done was to rewrite the
driver (with the UPDATE button in the installer).

Dave Spector
Senior Systems Programmer
GBA Computer Center
New York University
SPECTOR@NYU