[comp.sys.mac] mac II memory upgrade

kautz@allegra.UUCP (Henry Kautz) (07/16/87)

Articles in Byte, MacUser, etc. all claim that the Mac II can be 
upgraded to 8 MB on the motherboard by installing 1 Meg chips.
BUT the local dealer has never heard of this, and the "offical
Apple Rep, just in from the West Coast" says that he "strongly 
discourages" any such notion.  Huh?  (Apparently he believes
that Bell Labs lacks the technical capability :-)  SO:  what is
the true story?  What spec. chips are needed?  Anyone done this?
I'd really appreciate an answer from APPLE.  (It's hard enough to 
"infiltrate" macs into the lab, without problems in getting basic
technical information.)  Please mail to
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mrh@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU (Marc Hannah) (07/17/87)

In article <6932@allegra.UUCP>, kautz@allegra.UUCP (Henry Kautz) writes:
> Articles in Byte, MacUser, etc. all claim that the Mac II can be 
> upgraded to 8 MB on the motherboard by installing 1 Meg chips.
> BUT the local dealer has never heard of this, and the "offical
> Apple Rep, just in from the West Coast" says that he "strongly 
> discourages" any such notion.  Huh?  (Apparently he believes
..
> the true story?  What spec. chips are needed?  Anyone done this?> -- 
> ---- Henry Kautz

  There may be some confusion because of terminology...to upgrade to 
8 Megs you replace the existing set of 4 SIMM modules (which are populated
with 256K DRAM chips) with a new set of 4 SIMM modules populated with
1Mbit DRAM chips. This takes you to 4 Mbytes of memory. You then add
another 4 1Mbit SIMM modules to the remaining SIMM slots on the motherboard
and you have a total of 8M of memory. I don't believe it is easy to
replace the 256K chips ON the simm modules with 1 Mbit chips...that may
be what your dealer/rep were warning about. In any case Apple's official
solution is definately to buy new SIMMs to plug into the SIMM slots on the
motherboard. If you do upgrade to 8M you are left with the original 1M
of memory which you might find a buyer for since it can be used to upgrade
a stock MacII up to 2M. 
  Good luck, David Gelphman daveg%slacvm.bitnet@forsythe.stanford.edu

bc@apple.UUCP (bill coderre) (07/18/87)

In article <6932@allegra.UUCP>, kautz@allegra.UUCP (Henry Kautz) writes:
> Articles in Byte, MacUser, etc. all claim that the Mac II can be 
> upgraded to 8 MB on the motherboard by installing 1 Meg chips.
> BUT the local dealer has never heard of this, and the "offical
> Apple Rep, just in from the West Coast" says that he "strongly 
> discourages" any such notion.  Huh?

The following is from AppleLink "Apple and 3rd Party Products"
technical library on AppleLink.

Show it to your rep or dealer.

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Apple 1MB and 2MB Memory Expansion Kits
 
With the Apple 1MB and 2MB Memory Expansion Kits, users can expand
their  Macintosh CPUs' memory and maintain larger files.
  
SIMMS, or Single In-line Memory Modules, are plug-in RAM expansion
strips that are configured with up to eight RAM chips in either 256
kilobyte or one megabyte configurations. Up to eight of these modules
can be snapped into the Macintosh II computer's motherboard, allowing
memory expansion options of 2MB, 5MB, and 8MB. Up to four modules can
be installed in the Macintosh Plus and Macintosh SE, bringing the
configuration up to 2.5MB or 4 MB.

 
The 1 MB Memory Expansion Kit consists of four 256K SIMM strips,
allowing Macintosh II users to expand the RAM from the Macintosh II's
standard 1MB to 2MB.
 
The 2MB Memory Expansion Kit consists of two 1MB SIMM strips,
allowing Macintosh SE or Macintosh Plus users to expand the RAM from
the standard one megabyte of memory to 2.5 or 4MB of RAM. Since
Macintosh II memory must be upgraded four SIMMs at a time, Macintosh
II users may purchase two or four of the 2MB Memory expansion kits to
expand from 1MB to 5MB to 8MB of RAM respectively.
  
Apple's 1MB and 2MB Memory Expansion Kits will be available for
ordering in April, 1987.
 
Apple 1MB Memory Expansion Kit (M0218)
Apple 2MB Memory Expansion Kit (M0219)
 
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Unfortunately, I do not have a suggested retail price list handy (it
would take half an hour to download from AppleLink!). Ask your dealer
for pricing.