[comp.sys.mac] Font/DA Mover 3.5 Problems

tod4@sphinx.uchicago.edu (phillip a todd) (08/04/87)

I am experiencing some serious problems with Font/DA Mover 3.5,
the version that came with the recently released System software.
When I attempt to install fonts or DAs into the startup System
(on my Jasmine 20 meg drive) Font/DA Mover 3.5 hangs right after
I hit the "COPY >>" button. The hard disk activity comes on and
STAYS on until I hit the reset switch. When I reboot I find the
System file is about 5 megabytes!!! This has happened while
installing both Fonts and DAs and with copies of Font/DA mover
obtained from two different sources. The problem occurs only when
I install fonts or DAs into the STARTUP System--other systems
(such as those on floppies) don't hang.

I have gone back to using Font/DA Mover 3.2 and it works just
fine so I don't think it is related to my hard disk.

Has anyone had similar problems? Is there anyone out there
(especially someone from Apple Computer) who can shed some light
on this?

Oh, I have a 1 meg Mac Plus running Finder 5.5 and System 4.1.
Thanks!  Phillip Todd

jmvm@oakhill.UUCP (John VanMunster) (08/05/87)

In article <2138> tod4@sphinx.uchicago.edu (phillip a todd) writes:
>
>I am experiencing some serious problems with Font/DA Mover 3.5,
>When I attempt to install fonts or DAs into the startup System
>
>                                     . When I reboot I find the
>System file is about 5 megabytes!!!
>                                     The problem occurs only when
>I install fonts or DAs into the STARTUP System

>Has anyone had similar problems?

Yes, except that I ended up with a 12 meg 'system file'. Some other people
have reported similar problems to me and probably under the same circumstances
(fonts/da's insalled in 'startup System) though I didn't catch the relation
till you pointed it out. Thanks.

I also beleive but am not sure, that it only happened on systems that were
updated using Apple's Installer scripts - will check that out and report.
-- 
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olson@endor.harvard.edu (Eric Olson) (08/17/87)

In article <964@oakhill.UUCP> jmvm@oakhill.UUCP (John VanMunster) writes:
>In article <2138> tod4@sphinx.uchicago.edu (phillip a todd) writes:
>>
>>I am experiencing some serious problems with Font/DA Mover 3.5,
>>When I attempt to install fonts or DAs into the startup System
>>
>>                                     . When I reboot I find the
>>System file is about 5 megabytes!!!

>I also beleive but am not sure, that it only happened on systems that were
>updated using Apple's Installer scripts - will check that out and report.

I have used F/DA Mover 3.5 without this difficulty, and have never used
an Apple Installer script (after all, how could it possibly do what I
want?!?)  So it sounds like you're guess is correct.

-Eric

Eric K. Olson		olson@endor.harvard.edu		harvard!endor!olson

stearns@apple.UUCP (Bryan Stearns) (08/18/87)

Several earlier articles (from Eric Olson, John VanMunster, and Phillip 
Todd, et al)  contained references to a Font/DA Mover 3.5 bug that
causes one's System file to grow huge, etc. It was theorized that the
problem was somehow related to use of Apple's Installer, among other
things.

No, I don't have an immediate answer to the problem; however, I am
the poor soul enslaved to find it (they're just trying to get back at
me for writing TeachText! :-).

If any of you do happen to find a way to reproduce this problem (without
requiring lots of unusual fonts, DAs, etc), I'd appreciate hearing about 
it (please reply via net mail).

Thanks!

----------------------------
Bryan Stearns 
Apple Computer, Inc.

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kleef@cs.vu.nl (Patrick van Kleef) (08/19/87)

>>>I am experiencing some serious problems with Font/DA Mover 3.5,
>>>When I attempt to install fonts or DAs into the startup System
>>>
>>>                                     . When I reboot I find the
>>>System file is about 5 megabytes!!!
>
>>I also beleive but am not sure, that it only happened on systems that were
>>updated using Apple's Installer scripts - will check that out and report.
>
>I have used F/DA Mover 3.5 without this difficulty, and have never used
>an Apple Installer script (after all, how could it possibly do what I
>want?!?)  So it sounds like you're guess is correct.
>
>-Eric
>

And to add to the confusion :)

I've updates my SE to 4.1/5.5 using the Installer (scripts),
used (a hacked version [more DA's] of) F/DA Mover 3.5 extensively
and have never (knock on Mac) suffered any problems
of System files being larger than life.

But I do keep a System file on floppy just to make sure
that there's life after such errors. (not before long
I'll have to start using backup-utilities to put my
system file on floppy... It's getting close to 800 Kb.

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