[comp.sys.mac] Sorry about no mail

sysop@stech.UUCP (Jan Harrington) (08/11/87)

This message is by way of thanks and appology to all the kind people who've
been sending me mail (and part 10 of Hack).  I'm using elm as a mailer and
it doesn't seem to be able to reverse mail paths correctly.  Every piece of
mail I send gets returned to me.  I'm not ignoring people; I just haven't
figured out how to send you mail yet.  I guess both elm and I don't know
how to reverse mail paths ...

Jan Harrington, sysop
Scholastech Telecommunications
seismo!husc6!amcad!stech!sysop

drc@dbase.UUCP (Dennis Cohen) (08/20/87)

Like he said, neither I nor my employer's software seem capable of reversing
mail paths correctly.  Everything I try to send in the way of mail comes back
(usually without leaving the facility) as undeliverable.  I have found that a
reply to a news item has about a 40% chance of making it out, but a reply to
mail is at 0%.

Dennis Cohen
Ashton-Tate Glendale Development Center
dBASE Mac Development Team

sysop@stech.UUCP (Jan Harrington) (08/22/87)

in article <226@dbase.UUCP>, drc@dbase.UUCP (Dennis Cohen) says:
> 
> 
> Like he said, neither I nor my employer's software seem capable of reversing
> mail paths correctly.  Everything I try to send in the way of mail comes back
> (usually without leaving the facility) as undeliverable.  I have found that a
> reply to a news item has about a 40% chance of making it out, but a reply to
> mail is at 0%.
> 
> Dennis Cohen
> Ashton-Tate Glendale Development Center
> dBASE Mac Development Team


I've got the same problem, but I'm learning how to figure out correct mail
paths myself, and then am forwarding mail manually.  The strategy is this:

First, I user a mailer (elm) to automatically attempt to send a dummy
message.  It almost always comes back, but at least the uucp response tells
me the entire path by which the original message came.  Then I look for a
couple of gateway systems that I know how to reach (in my case, it's 
seismo and ihnp4).  If those two systems are _anywhere_ in the path, then
I can construct a valid mail path, since seismo and ihnp4 can accept
addresses with non-! characters in them.    

Since I've been doing this, mail hasn't been coming back!  I'm in trouble,
however, if I end up with a path that hasn't come by either of those
gateway systems ....


Jan Harrington, sysop
Scholastech Telecommunications
seismo!husc6!amcad!stech!sysop