howard@mtunj.ATT.COM (H. Moskovitz) (08/20/87)
I was playing around with a friend's copy of Deluxe music Construction set. I liked it except for the problem that it an old version and does not work properly with the latest version of OS on the SE (4.1/5.5), so I must run it from the floppy as the boot disk which makes it slooooow. Also, it does not like the HFS filesystem and does not find stuff inside folders. My question is: are these problems resolved in the new + improved DMCS? What NEW features are in it? How does Concertware+ Midi compare to DMCS? Since they are both in the same ballpark pricerange, which is more of a bang for the buck? Thanks (in advance). -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Howard Moskovitz AT&T Bell Labs @ Liberty Corner, NJ ihnp4!io!howard
ghoti@killer.UUCP (Alan Perry) (08/22/87)
The above article requested information about which of those two I preferred.
I will answer that with Concertware+. Now, if you really want to know what
I like best, it is Studio Session by MacNifty. The instruments are digitized
so you get the best sound out of any music program I know of for the mac.
Also, you are allowed 6 (that's right, not just 4) voices with promises of a
new release which will support 8 voices. The way they could do this was simple,
they just rewrote the sound driver for the Mac.
So, if you want a good (strike that, great!) music program for the mac, try
Studio Session.
- Alan
Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are solely mine and do not necessarily
reflect those of anyone else living, dead or otherwise.
jww@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU (Joel West) (08/24/87)
It's been a while since I evaluated these, but it seemed to me that Studio Session did have the best sound, but DMCS had the best music editor. However, the DMCS copy protection was odious and like all copy protection, crashed miserably on newer machines even with a legitimate copy. Last I'd heard, DMCS was due to come out on the IIgs, so if that's not ready yet, I wouldn't hold my breath for a fixed Mac version.
howard@mtunj.ATT.COM (H. Moskovitz) (08/27/87)
In article <1377@killer.UUCP> ghoti@killer.UUCP (Alan Perry) writes: > >I like best, it is Studio Session by MacNifty. The instruments are digitized >so you get the best sound out of any music program I know of for the mac. >Also, you are allowed 6 (that's right, not just 4) voices with promises of a >new release which will support 8 voices. The way they could do this was simple, >they just rewrote the sound driver for the Mac. I have two questions: 1) Does it support MIDI (if so, how well)? 2) How well does it print out scores on the LW? Does it support ADOBE's Sonata font (like DMCS)? -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Howard Moskovitz AT&T Bell Labs @ Liberty Corner, NJ ihnp4!io!howard
ghoti@killer.UUCP (09/02/87)
In article <47@mtunj.ATT.COM>, howard@mtunj.ATT.COM (H. Moskovitz) writes: > I have two questions: > > 1) Does it support MIDI (if so, how well)? > I don't think the version I have does, but the newest version out (the one with support for 8 voices) is going to....at least that is the story I heard... > 2) How well does it print out scores on the LW? Does it support > ADOBE's Sonata font (like DMCS)? > I don't know if it would support the Sonata font or not.... Also, I don't know what it looks like on a LaserWriter since I don't have access to one. Sorry I couldn't have been of more help... - Ghoti (that's pronounced "fish" GH as in lauGH O as in wOmen and TI as in moTIon)
jww@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU (Joel West) (09/04/87)
A revised version of DMCS will support Sonata, which, a year ago, was
listed as "Real Soon Now." I have not heard anything since then.
--
Joel West (c/o UCSD)
Palomar Software, Inc., P.O. Box 2635, Vista, CA 92083
{ucbvax,ihnp4}!sdcsvax!jww jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu
or ihnp4!crash!palomar!joel joel@palomar.cts.comralph@lzfme.UUCP (R.BRANDI) (09/07/87)
In article <3787@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU>, jww@sdcsvax.UUCP writes: > A revised version of DMCS will support Sonata, which, a year ago, was > listed as "Real Soon Now." I have not heard anything since then. > -- > Joel West (c/o UCSD) > Palomar Software, Inc., P.O. Box 2635, Vista, CA 92083 > {ucbvax,ihnp4}!sdcsvax!jww jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu > or ihnp4!crash!palomar!joel joel@palomar.cts.com DMCS 2.0, which supports the Sonata laser font (if you buy the laser version separately from Adobe) has been out for a number of months now. It's pretty nice, although for some parts there's a pretty steep learning curve. Especially on the Voice Editor (a nice addition, but a little difficult for someone without a background in acoustics to make something useful with from scratch). The only problem with it is the fershlugginer *%&$%^ copy protection. Does anybody know if EA offers a deprotected version of this? I know they do for their Amiga software, but when I wrote to them complaining about their CP policy, their reply made no mention of that possibility. Ralph ==== | Disclaimer: Just `cuz I work on the Death Star, ==OOO===== | that doesn't mean I speak for Darth Vader... =OOOOOOO==== | Ralph Brandi, {ihnp4,mhuxt}!homxb!mtuxo!lzfme!ralph =OOOOOOO==== | Kopykat (k) 1987, R.A.Brandi ==OOO===== | All Rights Reserved, All Jams Preserved, ==== | All Nasty Comments Soundly Deserved...
naftoli@aecom.YU.EDU (Robert N. Berlinger) (09/09/87)
In article <3787@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU>, jww@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU (Joel West) writes: > A revised version of DMCS will support Sonata, which, a year ago, was > listed as "Real Soon Now." I have not heard anything since then. It's been supported for quite some time now, even though you haven't "heard." I haven't personally tried it, though. -- Robert N. Berlinger naftoli@aecom.yu.edu Supervisor of Systems Support Albert Einstein College of Medicine Compuserve: 73047,741 UUCP: ...{philabs,cucard,pegasus,rocky2}!aecom!naftoli GEnie: R.Berlinger
jmm@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Jim Moy) (09/09/87)
> ...The only > problem with it is the fershlugginer *%&$%^ copy protection. Concertware+MIDI (I have version 3) is not copy protected. It runs nicely through my Passport MIDI interface on my SE. It does not support the Sonata font, but I only have an Imagewriter; the print quality is acceptable and comes in three "sizes" of notation. Jim Moy hplabs!hpfcla!jmm
gardner@prls.UUCP (Robert Gardner) (09/14/87)
In article <5110004@hpfcdc.HP.COM> jmm@hpfcdc.HP.COM (Jim Moy) writes: > >Concertware+MIDI (I have version 3) is not copy protected. >It runs nicely through my Passport MIDI interface on my SE. >It does not support the Sonata font, but I only have an >Imagewriter; the print quality is acceptable and comes in >three "sizes" of notation. > ConcertWare+MIDI Version 4 was just released which was a major rewrite of the program. It supports the Sonata font, has much improved print quality and control, including text which sticks to the notes, chords, polyphonic chord entry from a synthesizer, multiple staffs, MIDI macros, multi-voice editing, supports color on Mac II, etc. I will refrain from passing judgement on how well it does any of this since I was involved with the original ConcertWare+ (but not with this upgrade). I do think it's appropriate for me to let people know it exists, however! (Price was raised to $150 for this version.) Robert Gardner
jmm@thoth17.berkeley.edu.BERKELEY.EDU (09/14/87)
How well does DMCS handle long strings of grace notes? James Moore