oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP (09/08/87)
In article <11540014@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> david@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >Robert, great message...now when will we see Powerhouse on the Mac??? What is powerHouse? The only PowerHouse I know of is X-10 PowerHouse, the program that lets you control common household appliances from your Mac. It's been out for about a year now. --- David Phillip Oster --My Good News: "I'm a perfectionist." Arpa: oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu --My Bad News: "I don't charge by the hour." Uucp: {seismo,decvax,ihnp4}!ucbvax!oster%dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
david@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (David Williams) (09/09/87)
Nope, it (Powerhouse) is a 4th Generation Language that runs on Hp, Data General and Dec minicomputers and very soon the Boat Anchor pc from IBM. I'd just like a version for my macintosh!
roberts@cognos.uucp (Robert Stanley) (09/10/87)
In article <20545@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP (David Phillip Oster) writes: >In article <11540014@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> david@hpsmtc1.HP.COM (David Williams) writes: >>Robert, great message...now when will we see Powerhouse on the Mac??? >What is powerHouse? The only PowerHouse I know of is X-10 PowerHouse, >the program that lets you control common household appliances from >your Mac. It's been out for about a year now. Please, before we start, can we not carry this one off into an endless discussion, mainly because I do NOT speak officially for Cognos. PowerHouse is a fourth generation programming language (4GL) for development and execution of reasonably standard commercial data-processing applications. It is now nearly eight years old, but has evolved steadily from its origins on the HP-3000/MPE systems. It now runs on VAX/VMS and under AOS on DG systems, and the latest releases offer full relational database support. It is very definitely aimed at corporate data-processing, and is limited at present to the mini-computer world. Earlier this year we announced our 8,000th copy sold, or maybe it was customer (I don't know that stuff, although I should). Since David Williams works for HP (I deduce, perhaps erroneously, from the origin of his posting), I assumed that his reply to me was a tongue-in-cheek dig at Cognos, who have to date announced but not released a PC-based version of PowerHouse. Although I am not involved in the PC project, I am fairly (but unofficially) certain that PowerHouse on a PC will only be a satellite to mini-based host systems, and not a stand-alone system. Cognos has made no announcement of a Macintosh-based version of the product. I work for the research group at Cognos, where my mandate lies in the fields of human interfaces and artificial intelligence. I have astonishingly little to do with our current products, and am not at liberty to discuss unannounced products. I am NOT an official spokesman for Cognos, but I can pass enquiries to someone who is, or can get an offical statement if one is needed. You may make what you will of the fact that I own a Lisa, and that Cognos clearly has Macintoshes on strength. From this evening I shall be away for nearly four weeks of glorious vacation to celebrate the wrapping up of two heavy-duty projects, and I do not intend to be close to electricity until I get back. Please hold enquiries until October, and direct flames to /dev/null. Thanks. -- Robert Stanley Cognos Incorporated S-mail: P.O. Box 9707 Voice: (613) 738-1440 (Research: there are 2!) 3755 Riverside Drive FAX: (613) 738-0002 Compuserve: 76174,3024 Ottawa, Ontario uucp: decvax!utzoo!dciem!nrcaer!cognos!roberts CANADA K1G 3Z4
dwb@apple.UUCP (David W. Berry) (09/15/87)
In article <1419@cognos.UUCP> roberts@cognos.UUCP (Robert Stanley) writes: >In article <20545@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> oster@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu.UUCP > (David Phillip Oster) writes: >>In article <11540014@hpsmtc1.HP.COM> david@hpsmtc1.HP.COM > (David Williams) writes: >>>Robert, great message...now when will we see Powerhouse on the Mac??? > >>What is powerHouse? The only PowerHouse I know of is X-10 PowerHouse, >>the program that lets you control common household appliances from >>your Mac. It's been out for about a year now. > >Please, before we start, can we not carry this one off into an endless >discussion, mainly because I do NOT speak officially for Cognos. > >PowerHouse is a fourth generation programming language (4GL) for development >and execution of reasonably standard commercial data-processing applications. Lest the discussion degenerate even further, I currently know of four different things (and doubtless there are more, it's not exactly a unique name :-) named PowerHouse: 1. The BSR X-10 remote control stuff. As stated above, there is a version for the Mac. 2. The 4GL mentioned above, which I shall have to take the original author's word does not run on macs. 3. The latest and greatest replacement finder by the individual who wrote PowerStation. This one is a commercial product which >only< runs on the mac. 4. A candy bar made by, I believe, Hershey. Might run on a mac if you don't have a fan... -- David W. Berry dwb@well.uucp dwb@Delphi dwb@apple.com 293-0752@408.MaBell