saf@clyde.UUCP (09/09/87)
I would like to use ResEdit to modify the Monaco font so that capital "I" looks different from lower case "l". I copied the font out of the system file and into a new file, then tried ResEdit on it. (BTW, the ResEdit came with MPW 1.0 so it is fairly current - less than a year old.) There are 3 windows in the font editor. The two on the right work fine (I can enter sample text and scroll through the font). The trouble comes in the window on the left (the fatbits window). If I attempt to add a pixel, I get a few extra pixels off to the right of the character (this effect shows up both in the fatbits window and in the sample text and scroll windows). Also, the character shifts to the left in the fatbits window; the "character boundry markers" move with it. I also get extra pixels to the right of a character if I simply click on one of the "boundry markers" - I don't even have to move it! Is it me or is ResEdit unable to actually edit fonts? Do I have a broken copy (seems unlikely) or do I need a later copy? Does anyone have a font editor that works!?!?! I'd hate to have to write my own. I did a hex dump of the font and compared it to the description in IM. It appears to be perfectly formatted. I noticed that it is a "new ROM" font in that it has the "fractional character width array" tacked on the end. Could this be blowing up ResEdit? Should I remove it & if so, how? Will I cause more problems than I cure this way? Hellllllllllllp! Steve Falco moss!saf
olson@endor.harvard.edu (Eric Olson) (09/10/87)
In article <13578@clyde.ATT.COM> saf@moss.ATT.COM writes: > >I would like to use ResEdit to modify the Monaco font so that capital "I" >looks different from lower case "l". I copied the font out of the system >file and into a new file, then tried ResEdit on it. (BTW, the ResEdit came >with MPW 1.0 so it is fairly current - less than a year old.) > >There are 3 windows in the font editor. The two on the right work fine (I >can enter sample text and scroll through the font). The trouble comes in the >window on the left (the fatbits window). If I attempt to add a pixel, I get >a few extra pixels off to the right of the character (this effect shows up >both in the fatbits window and in the sample text and scroll windows). >Also, the character shifts to the left in the fatbits window; the "character >boundry markers" move with it. The last time I tried to edit a font, I had to use a very old ResEdit (the one that came on MacStuff 5/85). I have no idea why the new ResEdits don't seem to work correctly. My symptom was that as soon as I edit a character, it doesn't display at all any more. I think I was trying to edit an old-style font, though. It may well be that the latest ResEdits only work on the latest fonts, while Quickdraw/System can deal with any version. -Eric Eric K. Olson olson@endor.harvard.edu harvard!endor!olson
blm@cxsea.UUCP (Brian Matthews) (09/11/87)
In article <13578@clyde.ATT.COM> saf@moss.ATT.COM writes: |I would like to use ResEdit to modify the Monaco font so that capital "I" |looks different from lower case "l". I copied the font out of the system |file and into a new file, then tried ResEdit on it. (BTW, the ResEdit came |with MPW 1.0 so it is fairly current - less than a year old.) When it comes to ResEdit, less than a year is still wildly old. |I also get extra pixels to the right of a character if I simply click on one |of the "boundry markers" - I don't even have to move it! |Is it me or is ResEdit unable to actually edit fonts? Do I have a broken |copy (seems unlikely) or do I need a later copy? Does anyone have a font |editor that works!?!?! I'd hate to have to write my own. You have an old copy of ResEdit. I had the same problem (in fact, it was exactly the same problem, I was fixing I and l in Monaco), so I found a friend with the latest ResEdit, and that fixed things. I think the latest version is 1.1 something or the other. -- Brian L. Matthews "A man with one watch knows ...{mnetor,uw-beaver!ssc-vax}!cxsea!blm what time it is; a man with +1 206 251 6811 two watches isn't so sure." Computer X Inc. - a division of Motorola New Enterprises
jww@sdcsvax.UCSD.EDU (Joel West) (09/12/87)
My experience is that ResEdit does not work to extend characters to the left, even though it pretends to. I tried moving the character to the right instead but can't remember if it worked, or I'd already gotten disgusted and switched to Fontastic from Altsys. -- Joel West (c/o UCSD) Palomar Software, Inc., P.O. Box 2635, Vista, CA 92083 {ucbvax,ihnp4}!sdcsvax!jww jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu or ihnp4!crash!palomar!joel joel@palomar.cts.com
richb@dartvax.UUCP (Richard E. Brown) (09/19/87)
Reply-To:Richard.E.Brown@dartmouth.edu At Dartmouth, Jim Perry designed a "Terminal" font for our Macintosh terminal emulation program. It displays all printable ASCII characters uniquely (eye vs el vs one, zero vs oh, etc.) and comes in 6, 9, and 12 points. All sizes are pleasing, and the 6 point is remarkably readable. It's currently a resource bound into the terminal program. Send me a disk, I'll copy the program (along with some other stuff) onto it and return it. Rich Brown Manager of Special Projects Dartmouth College Kiewit Computer Center Hanover, NH 03755 603/646-3648 E-Mail: richard.e.brown@dartmouth.edu