victoro@crash.CTS.COM (Victor O'Rear) (01/01/70)
In article <1998@super.upenn.edu> mayerk@linc.cis.upenn.edu.UUCP (Kenneth Mayer) writes: >I've added the University of Pennsylvania to the list. Also, I've created a >"typical configuration" price comparison chart. And I've added San Diego State University which also offers a 5% discount for cash against "regular" price. Despite the bad feelings about Spaztec Shops here its supprising to see some 'low' prices. I've also included the combination menu items. Swarth- System List Cornell more USC Harvard UPenn SDSU Macintosh Plus 2,199 1,209 1,375 1,340 1,221 1,450 1,405 Macintosh SE 2,769 1,697 1,850 1,720 1,721 1,888 1,890 Macintosh SE/HD20 3,699 2,194 2,400 2,215 2,221 2,338 2,390 Macintosh II 3,899 2,304 2,525 2,340 2,332 3,066 2,625 Macintosh II/HD40 5,499 3,292 3,600 3,335 3,341 3,966 3,685 ADB Std Keyboard 129 90 95 90 89 89 95 ADB Extended Keyboard 229 160 179 155 159 159 165 Apple Mono. Monitor 399 279 279 260 278 279 275 Applecolor Monoitor 999 699 689 645 665 689 675 Mac II Video Card 499 349 345 320 347 349 340 Video Card Expn Kit 149 104 N/L 100 103 99 110 Universal Monitor Stand 89 68 N/L 65 69 69 N/L 800k External Drive 399 303 325 282 292 305 305 HD20SC 1,409 962 915 995 1,008 899 945 HD40SC 2,109 1,476 N/L 1,425 1,465 N/A 1,555 HD80SC 3,309 2,328 N/L 2,300 2,345 2,359 2,455 HD40SC Mac II Internal 1,599 1,215 N/L 1,200 1,172 1,229 1,205 HD80SC Mac II Internal 2,699 1,916 N/L 2,000 1,979 1,959 2,005 40SC Tape Backup 1,499 1,139 N/L 1,100 1,099 1,139 1,125 1MB memory expansion 349 265 N/L N/L 267 472 N/L 2MB memory expansion 999 759 N/L N/L 732 N/A N/L ImageWriter II 625 465 495 445 458 474 475 ImageWriter II Sheet Fd 225 160 N/L N/L 152 158 N/L ImageWriter LQ 1,429 1,071 N/L N/L N/L N/A 1,125 LaserWriter 4,999 3,249 N/A N/L 3,332 3,359 3,465 LaserWriter Plus 5,799 3,827 4,205 4,005 3,861 3,999 4,075 "Typical Configurations" Mac+, Ext 800,IW II 3,223 1,977 2,195 2,067 1,971 2,229 SE, IW II 3,394 2,162 2,345 2,165 2,179 2,362 SE HD20, IW II 4,324 2,659 2,895 2,660 2,679 2,812 MacII, Mono, IW II 5,551 3,487 3,739 3,455 3,504 4,257 MacII HD40,Color,IWII 7,900 4,999 5,224 4,935 5,003 5,666 Mac+, Ext 800, Case 1,752 Mac+, IW II, Case 1,817 Other Items ----- ----- AppleTalk PC Card 275 AppleShare File Surver 475 Apple LaserShare Print Spooler 225 Apple FAX Modem 525 Apple Personal Modem 300/1200 295 Mac Plus Logic Board Upgrade 395 Disk Drive Upgrade 185 5.25" Drive for SE or Mac II 405 5.25" Drive 305 Laserwriter + Upgrade 535 -- =============================================================================== ! Victor O'Rear {hplabs!hp-sdd, akgua, sdcsvax, nosc.mil}!crash!victoro | | ARPA: crash!victoro@nosc.ARPA and the Byte Information eXchange [victoro] | | | | "Don't Give Up, | | Because somewhere there's a place, a place where we belong.." | ==============================================================================@
bobk@killer.UUCP (Bob Kmak) (09/09/87)
Can anyone tell me what the Apple University Discount (percentage) is? I'm a new student at the University of Texas at Dallas, and planning to buy a Mac soon. The UTD bookstore sells them at what looks to be about 30% off retail...Is this normal? I guess I just don't trust campus bookstores, but if that's the standard discount, then I guess I'll buy it through the bookstore. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks, Bob Kmak rust never sleeps
chow@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Christopher Chow) (09/09/87)
In article <1504@killer.UUCP> bobk@killer.UUCP (Bob Kmak) writes: >Can anyone tell me what the Apple University Discount (percentage) is? >The UTD bookstore sells them at what looks to be about >30% off retail...Is this normal? I guess I just don't trust campus bookstores, Okay, this is from the Cornell University Microcomputer & Office Systems price list. You can figure out the percentage discount yourself. System List Cornell --------------------------------------- Macintosh Plus 2199 1209 Macintosh SE 2769 1697 Macintosh SE/HD20 3699 2194 Macintosh II 3899 2304 Macintosh II/HD40 5499 3292 ADB Std Keyboard 129 90 ADB Extended Keyboard 229 160 Apple Mono. Monitor 399 279 Applecolor Monoitor 999 699 Mac II Video Card 499 349 Video Card Expn Kit 149 104 Universal Monitor Stand 89 68 800k External Drive 399 303 HD20SC 1409 962 HD40SC 2109 1476 HD80SC 3309 2328 HD40SC Mac II Internal 1599 1215 HD80SC Mac II Internal 2699 1916 40SC Tape Backup 1499 1139 1MB memory expansion 349 265 2MB memory expansion 999 759 ImageWriter II 625 465 ImageWriter II Sheet Fd 225 160 ImageWriter LQ 1429 1071 LaserWriter 4999 3249 ; not for sale to students (Why?) LaserWriter Plus 5799 3827 ; not for sale to students (Why?) Can students at other Apple University Consortium schools buy LaserWriters and LaserWriter Pluses? They used to be purchasable by students at Cornell until about a year ago when they became avaliable only to staff and faculty. Christopher Chow /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | Internet: chow@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (128.84.248.35 or 128.84.253.35) | | Usenet: ...{uw-beaver|ihnp4|decvax|vax135}!cornell!batcomputer!chow | | Bitnet: chow@crnlthry.bitnet | | Phone: 1-607-253-6699, USPS: 7122 N. Campus 7, Ithaca, NY 14853 | | Delphi: chow2 PAN: chow | \---------------------------------------------------------------------------/
see1@sphinx.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) (09/10/87)
Christopher Chow asks: >LaserWriter 4999 3249 ; not for sale to students (Why?) >LaserWriter Plus 5799 3827 ; not for sale to students (Why?) > >Can students at other Apple University Consortium schools buy LaserWriters >and LaserWriter Pluses? They used to be purchasable by students at Cornell >until about a year ago when they became avaliable only to staff and faculty. Products at the University of Chicago Microcomputer Distribution Center are available to "full-time faculty, students, and staff." A LaserWriter (with toner cartridge) would cost me $3240, a LW Plus (also w/cartridge) $3785. Perhaps the demand outstripped their inventory capacity, though I doubt it. Insurance problems? Who knows? Ellen Keyne Seebacher {ihnp4!gargoyle, oddjob}!sphinx!see1 staff.ellen@chip.UChicago.bitnet
wade@sdacs.ucsd.EDU (Wade S. Blomgren) (09/10/87)
Christopher Chow asks: > >LaserWriter 4999 3249 ; not for sale to students (Why?) >LaserWriter Plus 5799 3827 ; not for sale to students (Why?) My guess is that the high price of the LaserWriter, combined with the substantial discount, and the fact (?) that most students really are not in a position to purchase such a high ticket item for strictly personal use makes the likelyhood of illegal reselling by students to private sector entities too high in the minds of whoever makes such decisions. Wade Blomgren, UCSD ACS (wade@sdacs.ucsd.edu)
garth@swatsun (Garth Snyder) (09/11/87)
> In article <1504@killer.UUCP bobk@killer.UUCP (Bob Kmak) writes: > > Can anyone tell me what the Apple University Discount (percentage) > is? The UTD bookstore sells them at what looks to be about 30% off > retail...Is this normal? I guess I just don't trust campus bookstores, > > In article <2284@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu Christopher Chow writes: > > Okay, this is from the Cornell University Microcomputer & Office Systems > price list. You can figure out the percentage discount yourself. I've kept Chris Chow's original Cornell prices and added in a column for the prices at the Swarthmore College Bookstore. They are CONSIDERABLY higher than those at Cornell. System List Cornell Swarthmore ------------------------------------------------------ Macintosh Plus 2199 1209 1375 Macintosh SE 2769 1697 1850 Macintosh SE/HD20 3699 2194 2400 Macintosh II 3899 2304 2525 Macintosh II/HD40 5499 3292 3600 ADB Std Keyboard 129 90 95 ADB Extended Keyboard 229 160 179 Apple Mono. Monitor 399 279 279 Applecolor Monoitor 999 699 689 Mac II Video Card 499 349 345 Video Card Expn Kit 149 104 N/L Universal Monitor Stand 89 68 N/L 800k External Drive 399 303 325 HD20SC 1409 962 915 HD40SC 2109 1476 N/L HD80SC 3309 2328 N/L HD40SC Mac II Internal 1599 1215 N/L HD80SC Mac II Internal 2699 1916 N/L 40SC Tape Backup 1499 1139 N/L 1MB memory expansion 349 265 N/L 2MB memory expansion 999 759 N/L ImageWriter II 625 465 495 ImageWriter II Sheet Fd 225 160 N/L ImageWriter LQ 1429 1071 N/L LaserWriter 4999 3249 N/A LaserWriter Plus 5799 3827 4205 > Can students at other Apple University Consortium schools buy LaserWriters > and LaserWriter Pluses? They used to be purchasable by students at Cornell > until about a year ago when they became avaliable only to staff and faculty. Yes, anyone can buy one here. -------------------- Garth Snyder UUCP: {seismo!bpa,rutgers!liberty}!swatsun!garth Swarthmore College ARPA: garth@boulder.colorado.edu Swarthmore, PA 19081 ALSO: {hao,nbires}!boulder!garth --------------------
mentat@auscso.UUCP (Robert Dorsett) (09/11/87)
In article <433@sdacs.ucsd.EDU> wade@sdacs.ucsd.EDU (Wade S. Blomgren) writes: >Christopher Chow asks: >> >>LaserWriter 4999 3249 ; not for sale to students (Why?) >>LaserWriter Plus 5799 3827 ; not for sale to students (Why?) > >My guess is that the high price of the LaserWriter, combined with the >substantial discount, and the fact (?) that most students really are not >in a position to purchase such a high ticket item for strictly personal >use makes the likelyhood of illegal reselling by students to private >sector entities too high in the minds of whoever makes such decisions. It seems rather odd to permit students to buy expensive computer systems (which are often sold at or beneath dealer cost), but not laser printers. Espec- ially when it's possible to obtain laser printers in the 3000-4000 price range on the mail order market (I seem to remember seeing adverts for laserwriters for $3500). It's fairly easy to detect attempts to resell such equipment. Here in Austin, the used Mac market is virtually non-existent: we all had to sign agreements not to sell our Macs for a couple of years, and to give the University (of Texas, which IS a Consortium member, despite their denials) first chance at buy-back if we do. All a store has to do is check the clas- sifieds once in awhile and cross-check any names or phone numbers with student lists. Another weird thing on purchase policies: I think that just about everyone out there will concede that the Mac II is an order of magnitude different from the Macintosh; the only commonality is in the II's abilities to emulate a Macintosh and use certain devices. Here at UT, they are NOT letting students who purchased Macs from the Consortium purchase Mac II's, apparently obeying the "one Mac per student" rule. Again, one might argue the same risk of illegal resale of the equipment, but the II price under the Consortium is an *incredible* deal. Does anyone else out there think this is unfair or unusual? -- Robert Dorsett {allegra,seismo}!sally!ngp!walt!mentat University of Texas at Austin {allegra,seismo}!sally!ngp!mentat mentat@ausco.UUCP
fiatlux@ucscc.UCSC.EDU.ucsc.edu (David Vangerov) (09/11/87)
In article <2284@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> chow@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Christopher Chow) writes: >In article <1504@killer.UUCP> bobk@killer.UUCP (Bob Kmak) writes: >>Can anyone tell me what the Apple University Discount (percentage) is? >>The UTD bookstore sells them at what looks to be about >>30% off retail...Is this normal? I guess I just don't trust campus bookstores, > >Okay, this is from the Cornell University Microcomputer & Office Systems >price list. You can figure out the percentage discount yourself. [price list from Cornell deleted for space] >LaserWriter 4999 3249 ; not for sale to students (Why?) >LaserWriter Plus 5799 3827 ; not for sale to students (Why?) > >Can students at other Apple University Consortium schools buy LaserWriters >and LaserWriter Pluses? They used to be purchasable by students at Cornell >until about a year ago when they became avaliable only to staff and faculty. The story on the LaserWriters, as I have heard it, is that students might buy them and then use them to go into the bussiness of desktop publishing. In other words, they want the computers being used for personal purposes and not for bussiness purposes. Here's what our policy is and what our prices are at UCSC. Any registered full-time student, faculty or staff member may make up to one (1) major purchase a year of Apple stuff. A major purchase is one of the Macintoshes. Anything else (disk drives, printers, etc) may be purchased as often as you want because the discount is less on those items than on the Macintoshes themselves. Our Bookstore (Baytree) quoted me these prices. However, campus units, such as departments like the Computer Center (where I work) or a division get their stuff via the purchasing department whereas the Bookstore tries to turn a profit on their sales of the following equipment. That's one of the reasons that the prices will differ. The best thing to do is check what the actual discount is before markup by your campus Bookstore. So the Bookstore's prices will be higher than what the University (and the bookstare) get them at before markup. The discount to Universities is very big! Typically the bookstore does a markup of around 10 - 12 per cent after they get them and the super-duper cheap rate. ----------------------------------------------------------- Product Name List Price Campus Retail ----------------------------------------------------------- Mac 512KE $1699.00 $1149.00 MacPlus $2199.00 $1499.00 Mac SE, 2 800K floppies $2898.00 $2100.00 Mac SE, HD20, 1 floppy $3698.00 $2795.00 Mac II, w/std keyboard $3898.00 $2800.00 & 800K floopy Mac II w/std keyboard $5498.00 $3900.00 & HD40, 1 floppy An Extended Keyboard adds $175 to campus retail for the SE or Mac II. High Res Monochrome N/A $ 299.00 Monitor for Mac II High Res RGB Color Monitor N/A $ 750.00 for Mac II Mac II Video Card N/A $ 370.00 Mac II Expanded Video Card Kit N/A $ 110.00 LaserWriter $3650.00 LaserWrite Plus $4300.00 Toner Catridge $ 80.00 ImageWriter II $ 495.00 ImageWriter II Sheet Feeder $ 199.00 External 800K Disk Drive $ 320.00 Hard Disk 20 $ 999.00 Hard Disk 20SC $1099.00 Personal Modem $ 295.00 Apple-Talk Cable Kit $ 59.00 Apple-Talk Connector Kit $ 59.00 Apple-Talk System Connector Kit $ 59.00 That's the story from our end. Remember, the bookstore sets it's prices and certain Universities will get equipment for less than other universities. In any case, the discount is very substantial and is a very good deal. I'd go for it if I were you. +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | David Vangerov | | Just your average Theater Arts major with a weird thing for computers | | fiatlux@ucscc.BITNET || fiatlux@ucscc.ucsc.EDU || ...!ucbvax!ucscc!fiatlux | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
kurtzman@pollux.usc.edu (Stephen Kurtzman) (09/11/87)
I have added a USC column to the following list System List Cornell Swarthmore USC ------------------------------------------------------------ Macintosh Plus 2199 1209 1375 1340 Macintosh SE 2769 1697 1850 1720 Macintosh SE/HD20 3699 2194 2400 2215 Macintosh II 3899 2304 2525 2340 Macintosh II/HD40 5499 3292 3600 3335 ADB Std Keyboard 129 90 95 90 ADB Extended Keyboard 229 160 179 155 Apple Mono. Monitor 399 279 279 260 Applecolor Monoitor 999 699 689 645 Mac II Video Card 499 349 345 320 Video Card Expn Kit 149 104 N/L 100 Universal Monitor Stand 89 68 N/L 65 800k External Drive 399 303 325 282 HD20SC 1409 962 915 995 HD40SC 2109 1476 N/L 1425 HD80SC 3309 2328 N/L 2300 HD40SC Mac II Internal 1599 1215 N/L 1200 HD80SC Mac II Internal 2699 1916 N/L 2000 40SC Tape Backup 1499 1139 N/L 1100 1MB memory expansion 349 265 N/L N/L 2MB memory expansion 999 759 N/L N/L ImageWriter II 625 465 495 445 ImageWriter II Sheet Fd 225 160 N/L N/L ImageWriter LQ 1429 1071 N/L N/L LaserWriter 4999 3249 N/A N/L LaserWriter Plus 5799 3827 4205 4005
dorner@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu.UUCP (09/11/87)
>>Can students at other Apple University Consortium schools buy LaserWriters >>and LaserWriter Pluses? They used to be purchasable by students at Cornell >>until about a year ago when they became avaliable only to staff and faculty. > >Perhaps the demand outstripped their inventory capacity, though I doubt it. >Insurance problems? Who knows? I would guess that, since the LW is such a big-ticket item, they had problems with students reselling them at a profit. I can't imagine _many_ students able to afford a >$3000 printer for their personal use. ---- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: dorner@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu UUCP: {ihnp4,seismo}!uiucuxc!dorner IfUMust: (217) 333-3339
munson@renoir.Berkeley.EDU (Ethan V. Munson) (09/11/87)
Here at Berkeley, Students may buy any thing Apple sells in the Mac line,
including Mac IIs and LaserWriters. They do state that you can only buy
one CPU for personal use. I wonder if their record keeping is good enough
to handle students who change schools. The prices are in the same
neighborhood as those at Cornell. For instance, a LaserWriter Plus is
$3582 and Mac II HD40 is $3007. They then slap on a 6% administrative handling
fee and 7% local sales tax, so the final prices are $4062.70 and $3410.54,
respectively.
In case, you wonder whether Apple needs to be concerned about illegal sales
by students, I have a couple of anecdotes. Some company, I think it was
Apple, recently fired a staff member who made a sham sale of about 100 PCs
to a church organization, planning to resell to grey market dealers. I also
recall that Apple has had to crack down on sales of LaserWriters at the
company store, because some employees were netting $500 a unit in a resale
scam. I don't think Apple has placed any restrictions on the Consortium
stores, but universities are often under considerable pressure from local
retail outlets, who resent the not-for-profit stance of most university sales
outlets.
Ethan Munson
munson@renoir.berkeley.edu
...{ucbvax,ucbcad}!renoir!munsonwaldman@endor.harvard.edu (benjamin Waldman) (09/11/87)
I have added a Harvard column to the following list: System List Cornell Swarthmore USC Harvard ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Macintosh Plus 2199 1209 1375 1340 1221 Macintosh SE 2769 1697 1850 1720 1721 Macintosh SE/HD20 3699 2194 2400 2215 2221 Macintosh II 3899 2304 2525 2340 2332 Macintosh II/HD40 5499 3292 3600 3335 3341 ADB Std Keyboard 129 90 95 90 89 ADB Extended Keyboard 229 160 179 155 159 Apple Mono. Monitor 399 279 279 260 278 Applecolor Monoitor 999 699 689 645 665 Mac II Video Card 499 349 345 320 347 Video Card Expn Kit 149 104 N/L 100 103 Universal Monitor Stand 89 68 N/L 65 69 800k External Drive 399 303 325 282 292 HD20SC 1409 962 915 995 1008 * HD40SC 2109 1476 N/L 1425 1465 HD80SC 3309 2328 N/L 2300 2345 HD40SC Mac II Internal 1599 1215 N/L 1200 1172 HD80SC Mac II Internal 2699 1916 N/L 2000 1979 40SC Tape Backup 1499 1139 N/L 1100 1099 1MB memory expansion 349 265 N/L N/L 267 2MB memory expansion 999 759 N/L N/L 732 ImageWriter II 625 465 495 445 458 ImageWriter II Sheet Fd 225 160 N/L N/L 152 ImageWriter LQ 1429 1071 N/L N/L N/L LaserWriter 4999 3249 N/A N/L 3332 LaserWriter Plus 5799 3827 4205 4005 3861
fenwick@garth.UUCP (Stephen Fenwick) (09/12/87)
In article <260@auscso.UUCP> mentat@auscso.UUCP (Robert Dorsett) writes: >Another weird thing on purchase policies: I think that just about everyone >out there will concede that the Mac II is an order of magnitude different >from the Macintosh; the only commonality is in the II's abilities to emulate >a Macintosh and use certain devices. Here at UT, they are NOT letting students >who purchased Macs from the Consortium purchase Mac II's, apparently obeying >the "one Mac per student" rule. > >Again, one might argue the same risk of illegal resale of the equipment, but >the II price under the Consortium is an *incredible* deal. Does anyone else >out there think this is unfair or unusual? I recently graduated from an AUC school (Carnegie-Mellon U.), and purchased a Mac II from there (ordered May 9, arrived Sept. 4!). I was one of the original Mac purchasers there (May '84). The rule quoted to me was that a student could purchase a II or an SE if they had not yet bought a Mac, or if it had been purchased before May(?) 1985. C-MU computer store & Apple people, please comment/correct this info. Steve Fenwick P.S. C-MU is selling II/40meg for $3133. Other prices also lower than Cornell. -- \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\//////////////////////////////////////// I refuse to put a witty saying, disclaimer, or other byte-wasting message here. E-Mail route: UUCP: ...!pyramid!garth!fenwick (I hope...) USPS: Fairchild, 4001 Miranda Ave., MS 30-606, Palo Alto, Ca. 94306 ///////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
phssra@emory.UUCP (09/12/87)
In article <1269@pompeii.swatsun.UUCP> garth@pompeii.UUCP (Garth Snyder) writes: > >> In article <1504@killer.UUCP bobk@killer.UUCP (Bob Kmak) writes: >> Can anyone tell me what the Apple University Discount (percentage) >> is? The UTD bookstore sells them at what looks to be about 30% off >> retail...Is this normal? I guess I just don't trust campus bookstores, >> >> In article <2284@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu Christopher Chow writes: >> Okay, this is from the Cornell University Microcomputer & Office Systems >> price list. You can figure out the percentage discount yourself. > >I've kept Chris Chow's original Cornell prices and added in a column >for the prices at the Swarthmore College Bookstore. They are >CONSIDERABLY higher than those at Cornell. I also added in the prices at the University of Chicago and Emory University (I won't reproduce it here; if you are interested in the details, send me mail). The price trend is Swarthmore > Emory > Chicago > Cornell, at least for the big ticket items. The discounts vary from 35% - 45% for the Mac's themselves, to 25% - 35% for monitors, keyboards and LaserWriters, to 20% - 30% for disks and ImageWriters. There is definitely no uniformity in the prices being charged. * Scott Anderson * ** gatech!emoryu1!phssra * * * ** phssra@emoryu2.{bitnet,csnet} * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
mentat@auscso.UUCP (Robert Dorsett) (09/12/87)
Here's UT Austin's latest...
System List Cornell Swarthmore USC UT Austin
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Macintosh Plus 2199 1209 1375 1340 1235
Macintosh SE 2769 1697 1850 1720 1749
Macintosh SE/HD20 3699 2194 2400 2215 2249
Macintosh II 3899 2304 2525 2340 unavail.
Macintosh II/HD40 5499 3292 3600 3335 unavail.
ADB Std Keyboard 129 90 95 90 86
ADB Extended Keyboard 229 160 179 155 155
Apple Mono. Monitor 399 279 279 260 unavail.
Applecolor Monoitor 999 699 689 645 "
Mac II Video Card 499 349 345 320 "
Video Card Expn Kit 149 104 N/L 100 "
Universal Monitor Stand 89 68 N/L 65 "
800k External Drive 399 303 325 282 299
Hard disk 20 $665
HD20SC 1409 962 915 995 925
HD40SC 2109 1476 N/L 1425 1540
HD80SC 3309 2328 N/L 2300 2430
HD40SC Mac II Internal 1599 1215 N/L 1200 N/L
HD80SC Mac II Internal 2699 1916 N/L 2000 N/L
40SC Tape Backup 1499 1139 N/L 1100 1111
Dataframe 20 SCSI 695
Dataframe 20XP SCSI 845
Dataframe 40XP SCSI 1215
Mac SE PC drive card 95
Apple PC 5.25" drive 300 (!)
1MB memory expansion 349 265 N/L N/L 577 (from128)
2MB memory expansion 999 759 N/L N/L 770
ImageWriter II 625 465 495 445 455
ImageWriter II Sheet Fd 225 160 N/L N/L 151.25
ImageWriter LQ 1429 1071 N/L N/L 1045
LaserWriter 4999 3249 N/A N/L 3399
LaserWriter Plus 5799 3827 4205 4005 3999
The only limitation written on the data sheet is that Dataframes can't be
bought on state accounts.
The store also sells the HP product line, as well as a few IBM's (not many
of those! :-)). The IBM discounts are nowhere as good as the Apple dis-
counts.
--
Robert Dorsett {allegra,seismo}!sally!ngp!walt!mentat
University of Texas at Austin {allegra,seismo}!sally!ngp!mentat
mentat@ausco.UUCPlarry@postgres.UUCP (09/14/87)
In article <265@auscso.UUCP> mentat@auscso.UUCP (Robert Dorsett) writes: >Here's UT Austin's latest... > >System List Cornell Swarthmore USC UT Austin >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Macintosh II/HD40 5499 3292 3600 3335 unavail. > > ... I recently put together the following comparison for a friend at UWisc. We were both purchasing a particular configuration of MAC II's. The UCB numbers include a handling charge (i think it was 8%) by the university. MAC II PRICING: UWisc UCB Developers Retail MacII, 1 meg, 40 meg HD, 1 floppy 3286 3187 2685 5369 Apple extended keyboard 146 145 160 229 Monochrome Monitor (12") 304 253 279 399 Color Monitor (13") 682 635 699 999 MacII video card (2 cards) 630 634 699 998 MacII video expansion kit 95 126 104 149 2 Megabyte expansion kit 693 730 699 999 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- TOTAL 5836 5710 5325 9142 NOTES: 1. Discounts from retail: developers 42% UCB 38% UWisc 36% 2. National Semiconductor 3rd party memory: 4Mbyte 1185 295/mbyte 8Mbyte 2157 270/mbyte 12Mbyte 3297 275/mbyte 16Mbyte 4197 262/mbyte These prices are university discounted. University discount is 40% off retail. This memory is NuBus memory so it is only usable by A/UX. Apple memory expansion is usable by either Apple OS or A/UX. larry rowe
merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) (09/14/87)
Christopher Chow asks: >Can students at other Apple University Consortium schools buy LaserWriters >and LaserWriter Pluses? They used to be purchasable by students at Cornell >until about a year ago when they became avaliable only to staff and faculty. Possibly because they figure that your typical student would not be buying a LaserWriter for his/her own use and would probably be buying it to give to Daddy for his business. I think Apple would rather he pay retail price rather than student price. -- "I know we'll be lovers again..." Peter Merchant (merchant@dartvax.UUCP)
merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) (09/14/87)
In article <1269@pompeii.swatsun.UUCP>, garth@swatsun (Garth Snyder) writes: > > In article <1504@killer.UUCP bobk@killer.UUCP (Bob Kmak) writes: > > > > Can anyone tell me what the Apple University Discount (percentage) > > is? The UTD bookstore sells them at what looks to be about 30% off > > retail...Is this normal? I guess I just don't trust campus bookstores, > > Apple has a multi-tiered setup for discounts, depending on what the school is considering doing with them. Dartmouth, for example, is part of the Apple University Consortium and is producing Courseware and other neat things for the Macintosh, which are available free (or freeish) to other universities. Thus, since Dartmouth is doing this nice thing for Apple, Apple gives Dartmouth nice prices. Now, other schools may decide they can't afford to do this sort of development. Thus, they get less amenable discounts. It also depends on expected volume of purchases. In other words, it's different for every case. There are about three different programs, depending on how many purchase your school is willing to commit to over how long a period. From what I've seen of the discounts, though, the lowest level is about the same as a good discount from a dealer. So, unless you know someone at a school that gets a better discount than yours, your best bet is to stick with your school's discount. -- "The poison is spreading..." Peter Merchant (merchant@dartvax.UUCP)
tim@ism780c.UUCP (09/17/87)
In article <7042@dartvax.UUCP> merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) writes:
< Dartmouth, for example, is part of the Apple University Consortium and is
< producing Courseware and other neat things for the Macintosh, which are
< available free (or freeish) to other universities. Thus, since Dartmouth
< is doing this nice thing for Apple, Apple gives Dartmouth nice prices.
<
< Now, other schools may decide they can't afford to do this sort of development.
< Thus, they get less amenable discounts. It also depends on expected volume of
< purchases. In other words, it's different for every case.
<
< There are about three different programs, depending on how many purchase your
< school is willing to commit to over how long a period.
On the other hand, Caltech is not a Consortium school, and is not doing
much with the Mac, and can't possibly be expected to have high sales,
and has prices lower than any of the others that have been reported
on the net.
I guess it really is done on a case by case bases.
--
Tim Smith, Knowledgian {sdcrdcf,uunet}!ism780c!tim
tim@ism780c.isc.com
"Oh I wish I were Matthew Wiener, That is who I truly want to be,
'Cause if I were Matthew Wiener, Tim Maroney would send flames to me"mayerk@linc.cis.upenn.edu.UUCP (09/17/87)
I've added the University of Pennsylvania to the list. Also, I've created a "typical configuration" price comparison chart. Although the configurations are really guesses on my part, they will give you an idea of how much prices vary from school to school. Swarth- System List Cornell more USC Harvard UPenn Macintosh Plus 2,199 1,209 1,375 1,340 1,221 1,450 Macintosh SE 2,769 1,697 1,850 1,720 1,721 1,888 Macintosh SE/HD20 3,699 2,194 2,400 2,215 2,221 2,338 Macintosh II 3,899 2,304 2,525 2,340 2,332 3,066 Macintosh II/HD40 5,499 3,292 3,600 3,335 3,341 3,966 ADB Std Keyboard 129 90 95 90 89 89 ADB Extended Keyboard 229 160 179 155 159 159 Apple Mono. Monitor 399 279 279 260 278 279 Applecolor Monoitor 999 699 689 645 665 689 Mac II Video Card 499 349 345 320 347 349 Video Card Expn Kit 149 104 N/L 100 103 99 Universal Monitor Stand 89 68 N/L 65 69 69 800k External Drive 399 303 325 282 292 305 HD20SC 1,409 962 915 995 1,008 899 HD40SC 2,109 1,476 N/L 1,425 1,465 N/A HD80SC 3,309 2,328 N/L 2,300 2,345 2,359 HD40SC Mac II Internal 1,599 1,215 N/L 1,200 1,172 1,229 HD80SC Mac II Internal 2,699 1,916 N/L 2,000 1,979 1,959 40SC Tape Backup 1,499 1,139 N/L 1,100 1,099 1,139 1MB memory expansion 349 265 N/L N/L 267 472 2MB memory expansion 999 759 N/L N/L 732 N/A ImageWriter II 625 465 495 445 458 474 ImageWriter II Sheet Fd 225 160 N/L N/L 152 158 ImageWriter LQ 1,429 1,071 N/L N/L N/L N/A LaserWriter 4,999 3,249 N/A N/L 3,332 3,359 LaserWriter Plus 5,799 3,827 4,205 4,005 3,861 3,999 "Typical Configurations" Mac+, Ext 800,IW II 3,223 1,977 2,195 2,067 1,971 2,229 SE, IW II 3,394 2,162 2,345 2,165 2,179 2,362 SE HD20, IW II 4,324 2,659 2,895 2,660 2,679 2,812 MacII, Mono, IW II 5,551 3,487 3,739 3,455 3,504 4,257 MacII HD40,Color,IWII 7,900 4,999 5,224 4,935 5,003 5,666 ----- ===== ----- ===== ----- ===== ----- Kenneth Mayer | Teacher: "Two plus two equals..." mayerk@eniac.seas.upenn.edu | Student: "Four, but what's a two?"
gillies@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu (09/21/87)
About university discounts on the MacIntosh --- 1. Here at the U of I, Apple also discounts software. I think it is discounted to $50 for macWrite, $50 for macDraw, and $62 for macPaint. 2. When is the Imagewriter LQ due to be released? I am suprised that Cornell already has pricing. The salesman here in town says Apple has begun shipping these printers yet. From what I have heard, part of the price discrepancies might be caused by the overhead at YOUR UNIVERSITY PURCHASING DEPARTMENT. Two Independent dealers in town handle MacIntosh Sales, and they told me you write the check to UI, and the UI gets the Macintosh from its central storehouse, where they are stockpiled.
tim@ism780c.UUCP (Tim Smith) (09/21/87)
In article <7318@ism780c.UUCP> tim@ism780c.UUCP (Tim Smith) writes:
< On the other hand, Caltech is not a Consortium school, and is not doing
< much with the Mac, and can't possibly be expected to have high sales,
< and has prices lower than any of the others that have been reported
< on the net.
I have been informed that Caltech became a Consortium School. Their
prices are now Apple price + 3%. I don't know how these prices compare
to the others posted, since I have not seen the current price list.
The price list I had was from before Caltech was a Consortium school.
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