mdh@linus.UUCP (Mike, no not that one, no, the other one) (10/23/87)
About 2 weeks ago, I what people thought were a good 'C'-compilier, and/or
a good assembler for the Mac. I got three Replies, and are as follows.:
From: decvax!ucbvax!dewey.soe.berkeley.edu!oster (David Phillip Oster)
LightSpeed C has an integrated C compiler, Editor, grep, make, link, and
assembler. It comes with Apple's MacsBug. It is a very fast compiler, and
linking is almost instantaneous (because it keeps around the link info as
part of the compile.) It compiles direct to object code.
The assembler is integrated with the compiler, so if you say:
foo(xP)register char*xP;{
asm{
move.l (xp),D0
}
}
it does the right thing. I prototype in C then profile to prove to myslef
I know where the hot spots are (you'd be amazed how often you are wrong about
that.) (LightSpeed C has an integrated profiler.) After I get my algorithms
right, I translate to assmebly langauge as required.
I don't use MPW, it is too big and slow.
From: jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu (Joel West)
MPW comes with an assembler, macro interpreter and an assembly
language debugger. You can also buy either Apple's or Manx's C
compiler to go with it.
From: singer@endor.harvard.edu (Richard Siegel)
Well, my recommendation would be obvious, and no one would take
me seriously :-), but I personally prefer LightspeedC (as I did before THINK
hired me). It's a good C compiler, and better yet, has a fairly good
in-line assembler built-in.
I Also asked what are some good reference books, to which the replies where:
From: decvax!ucbvax!dewey.soe.berkeley.edu!oster (David Phillip Oster)
The books to get are:
Inside Mac, Vols 1, 2, 4, and 5 (1 and 2 are the basic Mac, 4 covers upgrades
with System 3.2, and 5 covers upgrades with System 4.1) You need them.
Accept no substitutes.
The tech notes. These are 6 times a year articles by apple staff on fine
point in programming the system. There are about 150 articles in the collected
tech notes.
Scott Knaster's book on writing Macintosh software.
Programmer's at Work, Microsoft Press, has the complete source code for
Andy Hertzfeld's "Icon Bounce" program if you are interested in assembly
language source.
From: jww@sdcsvax.ucsd.edu (Joel West)
The best books on assembly language programming are considered to be
The Complete Book of Macintosh Assembly Language Programming,
Volumes I & II
by Dan Weston; publisher is Scott Foresman Co.
I would like to thank these people for there inputs, and I
hope this helps someone else, as much as it helped me.
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