merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) (10/24/87)
In article <2140@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU>, mrh@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU (Marc Hannah) writes: > In any case, the only reason I have problems selling people at work on > Macintosh is because of the screen size (clear, but still TOOO small). > Yes you can buy add on monitors for the plus and SE (for $1500 or more) > and yes you can even buy the new monitor for an additional $1000 but many > people would be glad to buy an SE type machine with a decent (12-14 in) > monitor for $200-500 more and don't necessarily need the (still) larger > screen. Apple has produced a great high end machine and solved many of > the problems with the compact Mac with the introduction of the Plus and now > SE, but the small screen remains unless you are willing to spend BIG bucks. > I hope there is a soon a machine that resolves this problem. Maybe it's just me, but I don't find the screen small. Lots of people I know have that argument: The screen is too small. Of course, these are the same people who are using Panasonic Senior Partners and don't have any complaint about the screen size. I have an IBM-XT with a CGA monitor in my office for a few weeks, but I have to admit that my nine-point Monaco is just as readable as it's nice big screen. Besides, even if I put the PC on the floor and just have the CRT, keyboard, and mouse on the desk, it seems to take up more room than my Macintosh. Now, I wouldn't mind a bigger monitor, so that I could put more windows on the screen simultaneously (a big plus for things like MultiFinder) but I don't find the Mac monitor to be that small. Is it just me? -- "Tell me lies..." Peter Merchant (merchant@dartvax.UUCP)
erics@dartvax.UUCP (Eric Schlegel) (10/24/87)
In article <7465@dartvax.UUCP> merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) writes: >In article <2140@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU>, mrh@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU (Marc Hannah) writes: >> In any case, the only reason I have problems selling people at work on >> Macintosh is because of the screen size (clear, but still TOOO small). >> I hope there is a soon a machine that resolves this problem. > >Maybe it's just me, but I don't find the screen small. >... >Now, I wouldn't mind a bigger monitor, so that I could put more windows on the >screen simultaneously (a big plus for things like MultiFinder) but I don't >find the Mac monitor to be that small. Is it just me? No, it isn't. I have no problems with the Mac screen, and while I too would like a bigger monitor to display more windows, the monitor size generally doesn't bother me. Certainly for applications like heavy-duty desktop publishing or for, say, a graphic artist, a big screen would be very valuable, but for everyday use the regular screen is fine. Eric ----- Eric.Schlegel@Dartmouth.edu | #include <std_disclaimer.h> | #include <quote.h>
mps@duke.cs.duke.edu (Michael P. Smith) (10/26/87)
In article <7465@dartvax.UUCP> merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) writes: [regarding claim that screen size is a drawback on Macs] >Now, I wouldn't mind a bigger monitor, so that I could put more windows on the >screen simultaneously (a big plus for things like MultiFinder) but I don't >find the Mac monitor to be that small. Is it just me? My attitude exactly. I don't find the 9" screen too small for a single window. I wouldn't mind a 12" screen to allow a few visible windows at once. But I am loathe give up the small footprint and absolute quiet of my Mac. My ideal machine would cram a 12" inch BW monitor with even greater resolution, a 40meg HD, a 68020 with 4meg of main memory and multitasking, into a box less than an inch wider and higher than the original Mac (they can make up for it by taking a little off the depth), and NO fan. I like the original dinky keyboard, too. While we're at it, why don't we list it under $5000? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael P. Smith mps@cs.duke.edu / {seismo,decvax}!mcnc!duke!mps "II. He who is not jealous cannot love." A. Capellanus' "Rules of Love" ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
mrh@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU (Marc Hannah) (10/26/87)
In article <7465@dartvax.UUCP>, merchant@dartvax.UUCP (Peter Merchant) writes: > In article <2140@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU>, mrh@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU (David Gelphman) writes: > > Maybe it's just me, but I don't find the screen small. > > Lots of people I know have that argument: The screen is too small. Of course, > these are the same people who are using Panasonic Senior Partners and don't > have any complaint about the screen size. I've never used the 'Panasonic Senior Partners' so your comment above does NOT apply to me. In fact the Macintosh is the first personal computer I've used with any regularity and the point still remains. The screen is too small. Even if YOU don't find the screen too small I can guarantee you that MANY people do find this and if the name of the game is making your customers happy and expanding your market, then Apple would do well by offering the type of machine I indicated my earlier posting: modular with a larger screen (and much cheaper than a Mac II!). Even though business is picking up on the Mac I don't think that validates every aspect of the hardware. David Gelphman
mrh@Shasta.STANFORD.EDU (Marc Hannah) (10/26/87)
In article <10479@duke.cs.duke.edu>, mps@duke.cs.duke.edu (Michael P. Smith) writes: > > ... I don't find the 9" screen too small for a > single window. I wouldn't mind a 12" screen to allow a few visible > windows at once. But I am loathe give up the small footprint and ... My final comment on this matter is that I suspect that as soon as people start using MultiFinder (which will be the standard operating environment in 3-6 months for many users) you will be cursing the small monitor. Part of this is because Apple hasn't yet put any special window management into MultiFinder (beyond the layer manager) and you soon get swamped with windows if you run multiple applications. Worse still, as more applications run in background you really may want to SEE what those applications are WRITING into their windows so hidden windows may be a pain. David Gelphman
lippin@skippy (The Apathist) (10/27/87)
If it fits in your field of vision, it's too small. (Likewise, if you can see the pixels, they're too big.) --Tom Lippincott ..ucbvax!bosco!lippin "Moderation is for monks."
psych@watdcsu.UUCP (10/28/87)
Personally I like the 9 inch screen. There have been a few times when a larger one would be handy. We have people in our department who have failing eyes. They have a lot of trouble using the Mac. The default character size is just to small. I have adjusted the normal default to Geneva 14 and that helps. The only trouble I have now is with terminal programs. The font used in all the ones I have seen is 9 point and not adjustable. This has caused the greatest problem. We are considering the ProApp screen that is a 12" version of the Mac screen ($300 US) to over come this problem. If any one has any other suggestions my eyes and ears are open. Please reply directly to me. Thanks. Richard Crispin Dept. of Psychology University of Waterloo Waterloo, Ont. Canada N2L 3G1 (519)885-1211 ext 2879