hunt@firqb.dec.com (Phil Hunt) (10/16/87)
Hello, Just got Multifinder 6.0b6 and System 4.2a4 and have found some bugs I would like to share: 1) Resedit 1.1b1 - On some files, like 'Finder', I get a message: Error opening Resource File (-49) If I am running Multifinder, If I run only Finder, everything is OK. I have also tried increasing the Resedit Partition, to no avail, it still errors. Also, once it crashed the machine back to MacsBug level, but as 'ES' (Exit Shell) command recovered to the desktop. 2) FONT/DA Mover 3.5 - If running Finder, everything is OK, but if running Multifinder, DAs don't show when a file is opened!! It looks like no DAs are in the file!!! 3) POP KEY (From FKEY Manager 3.0) - POPKEY is as INIT. It crashes on system startup as the desktop is being drawn, not when the INIT is executing. I even tried setting the 'Magic' rectangle off the Menu Bar or disabling it, to no avail... 4) LS Pascal 1.11a - While running a program in debug mode, I got the message: Zone Damaged - Continue at your own Risk I did, LSP crashed. This was under Multifinder. ============ All in all, the B6 version of MultiFinder is very slick. I ran most everything under it and they worked except as noted above. Lets see if the released version is even MORE improved!!! Phil Hunt
moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) (10/19/87)
In article <11877@decwrl.DEC.COM> hunt@firqb.dec.com (Phil Hunt) writes: > Just got Multifinder 6.0b6 and System 4.2a4 and have found some bugs I would >like to share: >2) FONT/DA Mover 3.5 - If running Finder, everything is OK, but if running >Multifinder, DAs don't show when a file is opened!! It looks like no DAs are >in the file!!! The documentation for the Beta versions says that the FONT/DA Mover should not be used under Multi-Finder. I don't know if this will continue into the released versions -- I know Suitcase will not allow you to open Font or DA files under Multi-Finder (though you can have it auto-load them during boot-up). "Yes! The Animals! Possibly the greatest band ever. Possibly not." Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer INTERNET: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM Manual UUCP: {uw-beaver, sun, allegra, hplsla, lbl-csam}!fluke!moriarty CREDO: You gotta be Cruel to be Kind... <*> DISCLAIMER: Do what you want with me, but leave my employers alone! <*>
denbeste@bgsuvax.UUCP (William C. DenBesten) (10/19/87)
hunt@firqb.dec.com (Phil Hunt): > 1) Resedit 1.1b1 - On some files, like 'Finder', I get a message: > > Error opening Resource File (-49) This error message means: -49 opWrErr The read/write permission of only one access path to a file can allow writing. In other words, the file is being used. This makes sense, since finder is running, you are not allowed to go changing the contents of its file. Close the finder (is this possible?), and it should run. In my opinion, the 'bug' is with the system error handler, or the application's error handler. It should report some meaningful message, in addition to the cryptic error number, and then allow the option of: 1) recover with the application's resume procedure. 2) ignore the error, and proceed at your own risk 3) quit the application and return to (multi)finder; 4) reset the mac. I would hilite option 1 if there is a resume procedure, 3 if the finder is available (findername != currapplname) and 4 otherwise. Unfortunately, the text for all these messages would take up incredible amounts of room. --- William C. DenBesten | CSNET denbeste@research1.bgsu.edu Dept of Computer Science | UUCP ...!cbosgd!osu-cis!bgsuvax!denbeste Bowling Green State University | Bowling Green, OH 43403-0214 |
lsr@apple.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) (10/20/87)
In article <11877@decwrl.DEC.COM> hunt@firqb.dec.com (Phil Hunt) writes: >Hello, > >1) Resedit 1.1b1 - On some files, like 'Finder', I get a message: > > Error opening Resource File (-49) > > If I am running Multifinder, If I run only Finder, everything is OK. I This is not really a bug. The problem is that under Multifinder, the Finder resource file is always open, and cannot be opened again with write permission. >2) FONT/DA Mover 3.5 - If running Finder, everything is OK, but if running >Multifinder, DAs don't show when a file is opened!! It looks like no DAs are >in the file!!! You need to use Font/DA Mover 3.6, which is compatible with Multifinder. -- Larry Rosenstein Object Specialist Apple Computer AppleLink: Rosenstein1 UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!lsr CSNET: lsr@Apple.com
cheeser@dasys1.UUCP (Les Kay) (10/20/87)
In article <2036@sputnik.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes: >In article <11877@decwrl.DEC.COM> hunt@firqb.dec.com (Phil Hunt) writes: >>Just got Multifinder 6.0b6 and System 4.2a4 and have found some bugs I >>would like to share: >>2) FONT/DA Mover 3.5 - If running Finder, everything is OK, but if running >>Multifinder, DAs don't show when a file is opened!! It looks like no DAs are >>in the file!!! >The documentation for the Beta versions says that the FONT/DA Mover should >not be used under Multi-Finder. I don't know if this will continue into the >released versions -- I know Suitcase will not allow you to open Font or DA >files under Multi-Finder (though you can have it auto-load them during >boot-up). First, let it be understood that I am using and referring to the RELEASE version of MultiFinder here - 6.0/4.2. It is out, I have it, you will soon have it available too - just lean on your dealer. I'll address this LIFO. . . . SuitCase does indeed not let you open additional font/da files beyond those opened at startup (around 30 or so files for me). Font/Da Mover works just fine, thank you very much - so long as you use version 3.6 which comes with the release version of MultiFinder. A highly satisfied, cheeser -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Bing, Master (cheeser) ...ihnp4!hoptoad!dasys1!cheeser Time flys like an Arrow, Fruit Flies like Bananas! ===============================================================================
singer@endor.harvard.edu (Richard Siegel) (10/21/87)
In article <1331@bgsuvax.UUCP> denbeste@bgsuvax.UUCP (William C. DenBesten) writes: >In my opinion, the 'bug' is with the system error handler, or the >application's error handler. It should report some meaningful The System Error handler isn't responsible for handling file-system or resource manager errors, and to expect it to do so is asking a little much; generally it should be up to the application to respond to a file system error, post a meaningful message, and handle it appropriately. The System Error handler itself cuts in when a truly fatal error has occurred; odd address, out of memory, and illegal instruction are typical errors to see. In this case, the system is extremely unstable, and the System Error handler needs to be able to do its thing using a bare minimum of system resources. >Unfortunately, the text for all these messages would take up >incredible amounts of room. This is true. --Rich **The opinions stated herein are my own opinions and do not necessarily represent the policies or opinions of my employer (THINK Technologies, Inc). * Richard M. Siegel | {decvax, ucbvax, sun}!harvard!endor!singer * * Customer Support | singer@endor.harvard.edu * * THINK Technologies, Inc. (No snappy quote) *
wbell@utgpu.UUCP (10/21/87)
In article <6512@apple.UUCP> lsr@apple.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) writes: >>Multifinder, DAs don't show when a file is opened!! It looks like no DAs are >>in the file!!! > >You need to use Font/DA Mover 3.6, which is compatible with Multifinder. > > > >-- >Larry Rosenstein > Does this come with the standard MultiFinder system? (or) will it be available on CompuServe? -- ---- University of Toronto Computing Services Warren Bell UUCP: {cbosgd,ihnp4,utai,utcsri,utzoo}!utgpu!wbell Internet: wbell@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu BITNET: wbell at utoronto, wbell at utorgpu Disclaimer: the views expressed above are mine, and do not in any way reflect the views of my employers.
lsr@apple.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) (10/22/87)
In article <1987Oct21.123014.9486@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> wbell@gpu.utcs.UUCP (Warren Bell) writes: >Does this [Font/DA Mover 3.6] come with the standard MultiFinder system? >(or) will it be available on CompuServe? Sorry. I should have mentioned this. The new System software package consists of 4 disks. * System Tools 1 with Multifinder 1.0, Finder 6.0, and System 4.2 * System Tools 2 with LaserWriter 5.0 and the necessary background printing software (the ImageWriter driver is still version 2.6) * Utilities 1 with HD SC Setup (1.5), Disk First Aid (1.3), ... * Utilities 2 with Font/DA Mover (3.6) & Apple File Exchange (1.0.1) I don't know if it will be made available on Compuserve. -- Larry Rosenstein Object Specialist Apple Computer AppleLink: Rosenstein1 UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!lsr CSNET: lsr@Apple.com
gardner@prls.UUCP (Robert Gardner) (10/22/87)
In article <3026@husc6.UUCP> singer@endor.UUCP (Richard Siegel) writes: >In article <1331@bgsuvax.UUCP> denbeste@bgsuvax.UUCP (William C. DenBesten) writes: > >>Unfortunately, the text for all these messages would take up >>incredible amounts of room. > > This is true. > Especially if every application has its own copy of them. Many include a subset for the most likely error messages. It would be nice if Apple put error messages in an STR# in the System File, which would be localized to the correct language. Then developers wouldn't have to duplicate them again and again. (Of course, this is not a novel idea... ) Robert Gardner
graifer@net1.ucsd.edu (Dan Graifer) (10/23/87)
Is the new system software package actually shipping, say from APDA? I tried
the three big Apple Dealers here in San Diego; Two wouldn't admit that it was
out. The third said he believed their shipment was on it's way, but could give
no delivery date. I would really like to get a copy before I go back east
November 1. What's the _official_ status?
Thanks in advance....
Dan Graifer
graifer@net1.UCSD.EDU
Disclaimer: Nobody ever listens to me anyways; Why should they start now?raylau@dasys1.UUCP (Raymond Lau) (10/25/87)
The next system release is only shipping to developers now. Apple is holding off distribution to the general public to give developers some time to work with it.
john@felix.UUCP (John Gilbert) (10/29/87)
In article <1719@dasys1.UUCP> cheeser@dasys1.UUCP (Les Kay) writes: > >First, let it be understood that I am using and referring to the RELEASE >version of MultiFinder here - 6.0/4.2. It is out, I have it, you will soon >have it available too - just lean on your dealer. > > > >I'll address this LIFO. . . . > >SuitCase does indeed not let you open additional font/da files beyond those >opened at startup (around 30 or so files for me). I called the SuitCase folks to ask about this and Pyro not auto-blacking under multi-finder. Suitcase does let you open additional DAs if you are just using finder, but not in "multi-tasking environments" like switcher, servant, multi-finder. Something about contention for the DA menu. This is stated in the manual, and I was told they hope to remove this "restriction". My biggest gripe was that Pyro! could not be told to auto-black in multi-finder. It notices that there ate tasks "not-idle" and does not auto-black. They indicated they are working on making Pyro! "multi-finder aware". -- John Gilbert !trwrb!felix!john