[comp.sys.mac] Recommendation for a new "Paste" feature on ALL Mac Software

jlc@atux01.UUCP (10/21/87)

OK, Apple developers (and employees) on the net, here is my suggestion for a
VERY useful feature for ANY software that uses Clipboard "Cut & Paste" features
(which means ALL Mac programs).

In any new or upgraded software, the Paste feature should contain the
feature of doing MULTIPLE pastes of whatever is on the Clipboard.  This could
be done by writing the code so that when a user pulls down the edit menu and
holds down a number key while selecting paste, the program will know that the
user wants X number of copies of the item on the clipboard to be pasted into the
document.  

For example, I'm in Superpaint and I have just copied a circle to the clipboard.
I go to the edit menu and select "paste."  Before I release the paste selection,
I press the number "3" key, THEN I release the mouse button.  I then have
appear on the screen THREE circles!

This could be a REAL time saving (and a nice upgrade) feature!

So what do you think, people?


						Jim Collymore

gardner@prls.UUCP (Robert Gardner) (10/23/87)

In article <560@atux01.UUCP> jlc@atux01.UUCP (J. Collymore) writes:
>In any new or upgraded software, the Paste feature should contain the
>feature of doing MULTIPLE pastes of whatever is on the Clipboard.  This could

Not a bad idea, but I'd rather (also like to) see a standard way of having
applications accumulate Copies to the clipboard. If I copy the words
'this text' and then (perhaps) use option-copy to copy the words ' is nice'
then the clipboard should contain 'this text is nice'. Some applications
do this -- I'd just like to see some standard guidelines for developers
to follow.

I've also found myself on several occasions wishing I had multiple
clipboards, or the ability to "stack" Copy commands. I'll cut or copy
something and then before I can paste it I find I want to do some
more rearranging first, but can't because I'll lose the clipboard contents.
It seems that some contortion-copy could mean "push selection onto
clipboard" and contortion-paste could mean "pop most recent push into
document (and remove it from clipboard)". This could cause problems
with application-to-application communication, however, unless only the
most recent copy (for instance) was saved to the "real" clipboard.

I think that clipboard operations need some refinement, but of course,
without user-interface guidelines and consensus developers will all do
things differently (or not at all) and no one will really benefit.

Robert Gardner

graifer@net1.ucsd.edu (Dan Graifer) (10/24/87)

In article <6921@prls.UUCP> gardner@prls.UUCP (Robert Gardner) writes:
>In article <560@atux01.UUCP> jlc@atux01.UUCP (J. Collymore) writes:
>>In any new or upgraded software, the Paste feature should contain the
>>feature of doing MULTIPLE pastes of whatever is on the Clipboard.  This could
> 
>Not a bad idea, but I'd rather (also like to) see a standard way of having
>applications accumulate Copies to the clipboard.

Actually, a reasonable way to accumulate exists already: Use an editor DA.  I
use the FreeWare DA "McSink" that was posted to the net a while back.  It also
can be had from:

          Signature Software
          2151 Brown Ave.
          Bensalem, PA. 19020
          215-639-8764

Unfortunately, this looses Word Processor Text formating.  The other way to
play these games is with a good Scrapbook replacement.  I use SmartScrap, 
which I got quite cheap (I forget how much) from MacConnection.

The "multi-copies paste" idea is a good one though.

                              Dan Graifer
                              graifer@net1.UCSD.EDU
Disclaimer: Nobody ever listens to me anyways; Why should they start now?

smethers@psu-cs.UUCP (Paul Smethers) (10/29/87)

In article <6921@prls.UUCP> gardner@prls.UUCP (Robert Gardner) writes:
>I've also found myself on several occasions wishing I had multiple
>clipboards, or the ability to "stack" Copy commands. I'll cut or copy
>something and then before I can paste it I find I want to do some
>more rearranging first, but can't because I'll lose the clipboard contents.

This sounds like a great idea!  How about having an hierarchical menu for
the paste commands that leads to the levels of clipboards (maybe with some
information about the item as well).  There can be a control panel option
for setting the preferred nesting of clipboards, and the application will
support as many as memory (or disk space) permits.

A similar implementation could be done for nested UNDO's.  Since the entry
level macintosh is now a megabyte, it is time we start getting applications
that can use some of that extra memeory for things other than data
(the old clipboard implementation reeks of the 128K macintosh).

Paul Smethers