jwhitnel@csi.UUCP (Jerry Whitnell) (11/11/87)
I just picked up the upgrade to 2.13 for LightspeedC off of CompuServe last night and thought I pass on some comments. It includes a 2.01/2.11 => 2.13 patch program, a new MacTraps project, a new Appletalk project and a new set of includes. You run the patch program against a copy of your 2.01 or 2.11 LightspeedC, install you new MacTraps and the .h files and your now at 2.13. Changes: MacTraps grew about 30K. Reason is that 2.13 has a smarter linker then 2.11 which will remove more of the unused stuff when you build an application. You pay for this, loading MacTraps takes 3 to 4 times as long and building an application also takes about 3 times (subjective numbers, no real numbers to back it up). With just the new MacTraps, 2.13 removed about 2K from a 96K application. Unfortunatly, this is bad for me because what I'm working on now requires that I make an application rather then just run it under LightspeedC. (Note to Rich: I WANT MY FAST LINK BACK :-)). The includes now integrate all the IM V stuff into the main includes. There are several new include files, including color.h, etc. Didn't check too closly to see how much they grew. These replace both the original 2.01 and the x*.h from 2.11. PrLink.lib is now in MacTraps as is some of the AppleTalk stuff. The upgrade was 130K in length (in StuffIt), 150K in Packit. Rich said he sent it to comp.mac.binaries so please don't send me email asking for the upgrade. Jerry Whitnell Lizzi Borden took an axe Communication Solutions, Inc. And plunged it deep into the VAX; Don't you envy people who Do all the things You want to do?
whp@apr.UUCP (Wayne Pollock) (11/14/87)
I already have version 2.11; how 'bout posting just a 2.11 => 2.13 (which I hope is smaller than the 2.01 => 2.13 mentioned in the previous message)? By the way, LSC's creator string is wrong; it should have the name and version number but it has some cryptic message instead. I also have the new stdio that was posted. This did NOT come with the source code to replace the old stdio library code. Please post this! Wayne Pollock, ...!cbatt, ihnp4}!cbosgd!apr!whp
singer@endor.harvard.edu (Richard Siegel) (11/15/87)
In article <313@apr.UUCP> whp@apr.UUCP (Wayne Pollock) writes: >I already have version 2.11; how 'bout posting just a 2.11 => 2.13 (which I >hope is smaller than the 2.01 => 2.13 mentioned in the previous message)? In fact, the identical upgrade is used to update 2.01 *or* 2.11 to the newer version 2.13. The update is so large because it contains the patch program (which is actually quite small), plus new #include files for the Macintosh ROM interfaces, and new MacTraps and AppleTalk libraries. >By the way, LSC's creator string is wrong; it should have the name and >version number but it has some cryptic message instead. What defines "wrong"?? >I also have the new stdio that was posted. This did NOT come with the source >code to replace the old stdio library code. Please post this! My apologies for this slip-up. The Unix-compatibility libraries are currently being revised. When the revision is finished (or at least at a good intermediate point) I will post the changed libraries, along with complete sources. --Rich **The opinions stated herein are my own opinions and do not necessarily represent the policies or opinions of my employer (THINK Technologies, Inc). * Richard M. Siegel | {decvax, ucbvax, sun}!harvard!endor!singer * * Customer Support | singer@endor.harvard.edu * * Symantec, THINK Technologies Division. (No snappy quote) *
carl@saturn.ucsc.edu (Carl C. Hewitt) (11/16/87)
I would love to get my hands on a copy of the 2.13 update, but it must've expired from the newsgroups. I also couldn't find it at sumex-aim or anywhere else. It is posted anywhere else? Thanks much -- Carl
singer@endor.harvard.edu (Richard Siegel) (11/16/87)
In article <1137@saturn.ucsc.edu> carl@saturn.ucsc.edu (Carl C. Hewitt) writes: > >I would love to get my hands on a copy of the 2.13 update, but it must've >expired from the newsgroups. I also couldn't find it at sumex-aim >or anywhere else. It is posted anywhere else? Thanks much > Quite the contrary; the patch was very recently posted to both info-mac and comp.binaries.mac. IT may not have appeared yet; it should be available before too long though. --Rich **The opinions stated herein are my own opinions and do not necessarily represent the policies or opinions of my employer (THINK Technologies, Inc). * Richard M. Siegel | {decvax, ucbvax, sun}!harvard!endor!singer * * Customer Support | singer@endor.harvard.edu * * Symantec, THINK Technologies Division. (No snappy quote) *
jwhitnel@csi.UUCP (11/16/87)
In article <313@apr.UUCP> whp@apr.UUCP (Wayne Pollock) writes: >I already have version 2.11; how 'bout posting just a 2.11 => 2.13 (which I >hope is smaller than the 2.01 => 2.13 mentioned in the previous message)? Sorry I didn't make this clear, the package is for upgrading both 2.01 and 2.11 to 2.13. And most of the space is not from the utility itself, but the new includes and the new MacTraps (over 70K!, but it appears as 9K in the project window). >Wayne Pollock, ...!cbatt, ihnp4}!cbosgd!apr!whp Jerry Whitnell Lizzi Borden took an axe Communication Solutions, Inc. And plunged it deep into the VAX; Don't you envy people who Do all the things You want to do?
hallett@falstaff.steinmetz (Jeff R Hallett) (11/17/87)
In article <1137@saturn.ucsc.edu> carl@saturn.ucsc.edu (Carl C. Hewitt) writes: > >I would love to get my hands on a copy of the 2.13 update, but it must've >expired from the newsgroups. I also couldn't find it at sumex-aim >or anywhere else. It is posted anywhere else? Thanks much > > -- Carl Carl - It hasn't appeared on comp.binaries.mac yet. Rich posted it, but it hasn't made through yet. I'm looking for it too. Jeffrey A. Hallett (hallett@ge-crd.arpa hallett@desdemona.uucp) Software Technology Program General Electric Corporate Research and Development ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many" -- Kirk (STIII) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Disclaimer: I do not guarantee the validity of the content, meaning, or nature of anything in this message as my own sanity may be in doubt. My employer doesn't either and probably won't admit they employ me if called. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
raylau@dasys1.UUCP (Raymond Lau) (11/18/87)
It seems that when "run"ing an application, the SIZE -1 rsrc in the rsrc file
is ignored...making it rather difficult to test suspend/resume/semi-background
operations. Can't call this a "bug" per se..but a shortcoming. If not let
us use the SIZE -1, then maybe include the respective flags/sizes in the
Set File Type dialog?
Well, THINK about it....
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"Take it and StuffIt."whp@apr.UUCP (11/18/87)
In article <3207@husc6.UUCP> singer@endor.UUCP (Richard Siegel) writes: >>By the way, LSC's creator string is wrong; it should have the name and >>version number but it has some cryptic message instead. > > What defines "wrong"?? Apple does! Go and re-read tech note #147; Your fancy Icon is a bug too (same tech note). (Actually, I like your icon.) This patch you're posting - have you considered posting a compressed version (using StuffIt or at least PackIt) on services which support 8-bit files (like GEnie, f'instance)? Wayne Pollock GEnie address: W.POLLOCK (I'm losing access to Netnews today! *sniff*)
singer@endor.UUCP (11/19/87)
In article <2006@dasys1.UUCP> raylau@dasys1.UUCP (Raymond Lau) writes: > >It seems that when "run"ing an application, the SIZE -1 rsrc in the rsrc file >is ignored...making it rather difficult to test suspend/resume/semi-background >operations. Can't call this a "bug" per se..but a shortcoming. If not let >us use the SIZE -1, then maybe include the respective flags/sizes in the >Set File Type dialog? The SIZE resource needs to be in the project file, not the resource file. >Well, THINK about it.... This will probably be added in a future version of LightspeedC. --Rich **The opinions stated herein are my own opinions and do not necessarily represent the policies or opinions of my employer (THINK Technologies, Inc). * Richard M. Siegel | {decvax, ucbvax, sun}!harvard!endor!singer * * Customer Support | singer@endor.harvard.edu * * Symantec, THINK Technologies Division. (No snappy quote) *
tedj@hpcilzb.UUCP (11/19/87)
>>I would love to get my hands on a copy of the 2.13 update, but it must've >>expired from the newsgroups. I also couldn't find it at sumex-aim >>or anywhere else. It is posted anywhere else? Thanks much I just got it off of Sumex-aim last Tuesday (the 17th).... -Ted