[comp.sys.mac] BinHex 4.0 or 5.0?

jamespa@redwood.UUCP (James Paul) (11/19/87)

I've seen several messages asking about BinHex 4.0 and asking where to
get it. I must be missing the replies, and I have no idea where to get
BinHex 4.0. Is this an application on the Mac, or a UNIX implementation?
I have BinHex 5.0, which has been out since 1985. I don't recall ever
seeing a version 4.0. Version 5.0 has been working just fine for converting
the files on the Net to binary on the Mac, but it's output looks quite
different when converting a file to hex. I assume we shouldn't be using
version 5.0 on the Net? Exactly _what_ should we be using, and where can
we get it? What are the differences between version 4.0 and 5.0? Does
anyone know of a UNIX implementation?

With the large number of questions asked about these (and related) topics,
is there a newsgroup or other area where we can stick some files to
answer all these questions? Or am I _way_ out in left field here?

-James L. Paul

tdn@K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (Thomas Newton) (11/21/87)

In article <790@redwood.UUCP> jamespa@redwood.UUCP (James Paul) writes:
>I've seen several messages asking about BinHex 4.0 and asking where to
>get it. I must be missing the replies, and I have no idea where to get
>BinHex 4.0. Is this an application on the Mac, or a UNIX implementation?

BinHex is a Macintosh application that has gone through several versions.  The
ones I can remember offhand are:

  Obsolete versions of BinHex (all free):
    BinHex3.BAS    formats produced:  .HEX         decoded:  .HEX
    BinHex 2.0     formats produced:  .HCX, .HEX   decoded:  .HCX, .HEX
    BinHex 2.1     formats produced:  .HCX, .HEX   decoded:  .HCX, .HEX
    (no stand-alone version 3.0 to avoid confusion with MS-BASIC BinHex)

  Current versions of BinHex:
    BinHex 4.0     formats produced:  .HQX         decoded:  .HQX, .HCX, .HEX
		   Free; remains the best alternative for encoding Mac binary
		   files to be posted to USENET or archived on ARPANET (there
		   are many types of computers on ARPANET and I believe news/
		   mail links on USENET are only intended to pass ASCII text)

    BinHex 5.0     formats produced:  MacBinary I  decoded:  MacBinary I plus
    							     .HQX, .HCX, .HEX
		   Shareware; useful for sending MacBinary files to a service
		   that uses them (Compuserve, GEnie, etc.) in the event that
		   your terminal emulator does not support MacBinary directly.
		   Since practically every Macintosh terminal emulator around
		   with the exception of MacKermit can produce and decode the
		   MacBinary format on-the-fly and since BinHex 5.0 is unable
		   to produce text-format BinHex files, its utility is rather
		   questionable.  BinHex 5.0 was written before the MacBinary
		   II format was introduced, and so does not have support for
		   the MacBinary II enhancements.

                                        -- Thomas Newton

g099508030ea@deneb.ucdavis.edu (0040;0000004634;0;190;142;) (11/22/87)

In article <379@PT.CS.CMU.EDU>, tdn@K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (Thomas Newton)
writes:

"BinHex 4.0 ... remains the best alternative for encoding Mac binary
files to be posted to UseNet ..."

I am in desparate need of BinHex 4.0.  I have BinHex 5.0 and couldn't
figure out why I couldn't create text files with it. No wonder.
Could someone please post BinHex 4.0 to comp.binaries.mac, or please
e-mail it to me?  I've been wanting to post to the binaries for some
time now, but without BinHex 4.0 was not able to.  Thanks.

J. Deline, U.C. Davis Dept. of Chemistry

ogil@sphinx.uchicago.edu (Lord Julius) (11/23/87)

In article <545@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> jedeline@deneb.ucdavis.edu.UUCP (Jim Deline) writes:
>
>In article <379@PT.CS.CMU.EDU>, tdn@K.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (Thomas Newton)
>writes:
>
>"BinHex 4.0 ... remains the best alternative for encoding Mac binary
>files to be posted to UseNet ..."
>
>I am in desparate need of BinHex 4.0.  I have BinHex 5.0 and couldn't
>figure out why I couldn't create text files with it. No wonder.
>Could someone please post BinHex 4.0 to comp.binaries.mac, or please
>e-mail it to me?  I've been wanting to post to the binaries for some
>time now, but without BinHex 4.0 was not able to.  Thanks.
>
>J. Deline, U.C. Davis Dept. of Chemistry

I need it too.  Thanks in advance (I hope)!

[

Food for the new version of inews here at sphinx, which apparently
can't differentiate between a full-fledged article and a request for 
a copy of BinHex 4.0 :-)










]


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terrell@musky2.EDU (Roger Terrell) (11/23/87)

In article <790@redwood.UUCP> jamespa@redwood.UUCP (James Paul) writes:
>
> [...]  I have no idea where to get
>BinHex 4.0. Is this an application on the Mac, or a UNIX implementation?
>I have BinHex 5.0, which has been out since 1985.

BinHex 4.0 is just the earlier version of BinHex 5.0.  Both are Mac programs;
version 5.0 accepts input from 4.0-ed files, but I don't think it works the
other way around.

For use on the net, version 4.0 is most common right now, but that probably
will change as 5.0 gets spread around more.

--Roger


-- 

Roger Terrell
Muskingum College			...cbosgd!musky2!terrell (UUCP)
New Concord, OH  43762

see1@sphinx.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) (11/25/87)

In article <2755@sphinx.uchicago.edu> ogil@sphinx.uchicago.edu.UUCP writes:

>>Could someone please post BinHex 4.0 to comp.binaries.mac, or please
>>e-mail it to me?
>
>I need it too.  Thanks in advance (I hope)!

Please *don't* send BinHex to sphinx users;  we have more than enough to go 
around :-).  I realize that our fledgling microcomputer services aren't 
quite organized ... but:

sphinx, oddjob, and gargoyle readers at the U of Chicago:  Please contact me
or another Mac user in the Comp Center before asking the net.  Thanks.


Thanks,

Ellen Keyne Seebacher              Microcomputer Documentation Specialist
staff.ellen@chip.uchicago.edu      ...{ihnp4!gargoyle, oddjob}!sphinx!see1
(312) 702-6087        1155 East 60th Street, Room 431, Chicago, IL  60637