sysop@stech.UUCP (Jan Harrington) (11/16/87)
Has anyone out there tried using Ready, Set, Go 4.0 and MultiFinder? I seem to be having printing problems. It won't print at all with background printing (nothing ever gets sent to the LaserWriter) and when I turn background printing off, the printing is unbelievably slow. Has anyone else run into this? (No other applications were running at the time, by the way.) Jan Harrington, sysop Scholastech Telecommunications ihnp4!husc6!amcad!stech!sysop or allegra!stech!sysop ******************************************************************************** Miscellaneous profundity: "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai ********************************************************************************
chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (11/17/87)
>Has anyone out there tried using Ready, Set, Go 4.0 and MultiFinder? I seem >to be having printing problems. It won't print at all with background >printing (nothing ever gets sent to the LaserWriter) and when I turn background >printing off, the printing is unbelievably slow. How much memory do you have? I haven't tried it yet (maybe tonight) but I've been told that RSG4 under Multifinder in a meg or memory is really pushing it. I'll tell you how it works with 2 Meg as soon as I try it. chuq --- Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach chuq@sun.COM Delphi: CHUQ
mo@well.UUCP (11/19/87)
In article <257@stech.UUCP> sysop@stech.UUCP (Jan Harrington) writes: >Has anyone out there tried using Ready, Set, Go 4.0 and MultiFinder? I seem >to be having printing problems. It won't print at all with background >printing (nothing ever gets sent to the LaserWriter) and when I turn background >printing off, the printing is unbelievably slow. > >Has anyone else run into this? (No other applications were running at the >time, by the way.) > Jan, I just (even as we speak, as it were) tried it, and it worked fine. Have you modified the MF bits in RSG's size -1 resource? Do you know about that? I (possibly incorrectly) set the second (Suspend/Resume), fourth and fifth (Undefined) bits to 1 (one), and it works fine. The fourth bit means "Understands background NULL events", and the fifth bit is "MultiFinder Aware". I'm not really sure what the possible ramifications are of doing this (with ResEdit, by the way), but after doing it with a number of applications, I haven't run into trouble yet. It doesn't work with some programs, like PM 2.0a, but seemed to with RSG 4.0. As with any hacking around with ResEdit, you should do this with a **_COPY_** of RSG, not even close to your only copy. Good luck, have fun, and don't blame me if you erase your hard disk, or something... I was out of town. -- Maurice Weitman ..!{dual,hplabs,lll-crg,ptsfa,glacier}!well!mo | <- this is not a pipe POBox 10019 Berkeley, CA 94709 (415)549-0280 Quote: "If we're not listening, we'd have to be pretty blind." J-L Gassee Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact or fact are transmission errors.
goldman@apple.UUCP (11/20/87)
In article <4487@well.UUCP> mo@well.UUCP (Maurice Weitman) writes: >Jan, I just (even as we speak, as it were) tried it, and it >worked fine. Have you modified the MF bits in RSG's size -1 >resource? Do you know about that? I (possibly incorrectly) set >... >I'm not really sure what the possible ramifications are of doing >this (with ResEdit, by the way), but after doing it with a number >of applications, I haven't run into trouble yet. It doesn't work >with some programs, like PM 2.0a, but seemed to with RSG 4.0. This is not such a hot idea. Most of these bits correspond to levels of expected functionality for a given app. Turning bits off will cause an app to lose some of its functionality (i.e. slower switch time, loss of backgrounding, etc.). Turning bits on will cause apps to react incorrectly in certain cases (a typical symptom is having the frontmost window of a layer remain highlighted even when another layer moves to the front). I suspect the reason that you haven't seen any problems with the apps you're changing is that you're probably changing the wrong 'SIZE' resource. As soon as you change the size of an application with the Finder "Get Info" box, the Finder makes a copy of the ('SIZE', -1) resource, names it ('SIZE', 0), and changes the partition size there (so the original remains intact). From then on, the Finder uses ('SIZE', 0), so if you want to change bits you'll have to change them here too. Unless you are developing your own application, the only bit that it makes sense to change is the background bit. Even this one is unlikely to produce startling results with most applications; they simply have nothing to "do" in the background. They simply waste CPU time. However, many old programs, especially demos, look very nice running in the background. My personal favorite is Bill The Cat. -Phil Goldman Apple Computer UUCP:{voder,nsc,sun}!apple!goldman APPLELINK:GOLDMAN1
sysop@stech.UUCP (11/25/87)
in article <34023@sun.uucp>, chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) says: > >>Has anyone out there tried using Ready, Set, Go 4.0 and MultiFinder? I seem >>to be having printing problems. It won't print at all with background >>printing (nothing ever gets sent to the LaserWriter) and when I turn background >>printing off, the printing is unbelievably slow. > > How much memory do you have? I haven't tried it yet (maybe tonight) but I've > been told that RSG4 under Multifinder in a meg or memory is really pushing > it. I'll tell you how it works with 2 Meg as soon as I try it. > Chuq, I'm running 2 meg. RSG4's behavior under MultiFinder isn't consistent, I've discovered. The page that won't print with background printing is a very complex page; it must be printed smoothed, has a complex scaled bit-mapped graphic as well as a scaled bit-mapped font. The remainder of the document, and everything else I've tried so far, will print with background printing. Very odd. (that page took 1 1/4 hrs to print, but it's really gorgeous!!!!!) Jan Harrington, sysop Scholastech Telecommunications ihnp4!husc6!amcad!stech!sysop or allegra!stech!sysop ******************************************************************************** Miscellaneous profundity: "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai ********************************************************************************
chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (11/30/87)
>I'm running 2 meg. RSG4's behavior under MultiFinder isn't consistent, >I've discovered. The page that won't print with background printing is >a very complex page; it must be printed smoothed, has a complex scaled >bit-mapped graphic as well as a scaled bit-mapped font. The remainder >of the document, and everything else I've tried so far, will print with >background printing. Very odd. (that page took 1 1/4 hrs to print, but >it's really gorgeous!!!!!) I haven't seen this on my 2meg machine. I have been told, however, that Letraset claims there is a bug in Laserwriter 5.0 that it tickles on complex pages. This sounds like it may well be what you're seeing. Does anyone know more about this? Can someone confirm or deny the Laserwriter 5.0 bug, or have more details about what it entails? chuq --- Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach chuq@sun.COM Delphi: CHUQ