andrew@teletron.UUCP (Andrew Scott) (11/25/87)
I have a few questions which some kind soul(s) might be able to help with: 1) I'm about to purchase MPW 2.0 and have just heard from the net that MPW 3.0 will be out soon. Will upgrades be available, and will they cost the Earth? What happened re upgrades when MPW 2.0 came out? 2) How do I get 'macput' to work? I got the copy posted several months ago and have it compiled on our UNIX Sys V system. I have tried the following sequence with no luck: i) run 'xbin' to create the file.data, file.rsrc and file.info files. No problems here. ii) type 'macput file' from terminal mode iii) select the "XMODEM Download" command from my Mac program iv) both programs time out I have tried Red Ryder, MacTerminal and others. I'm not sure whether I've got the settings wrong or 'macput' is compiled wrong (it was a BSD only program as distributed). What is the *exact* procedure used by people who've done this successfully? (including settings) 3) Try to change the desktop pattern from the control panel when running MultiFinder. I did last night, and the disk icons vanished! It was as though I had ejected the disks. I got the floppy icon back by ejecting and re-inserting the disk. I had to restart to get the hard disk icon back. Has anyone else seen this behaviour? Thanks, Andrew (andrew@teletron or ..alberta!ncc!teletron!andrew)
hallett@lear.steinmetz (Jeff A. Hallett) (11/30/87)
In article <145@teletron.UUCP> andrew@teletron.UUCP (Andrew Scott) writes: >2) How do I get 'macput' to work? I got the copy posted several months ago > and have it compiled on our UNIX Sys V system. I have tried the > following sequence with no luck: > > i) run 'xbin' to create the file.data, file.rsrc and file.info > files. No problems here. > ii) type 'macput file' from terminal mode > iii) select the "XMODEM Download" command from my Mac program > iv) both programs time out > Well, I do it a little differently and it seems to work. Maybe this will help until the real problem if figured out. 1. Using MacTerminal, I log into my host. There is a binhex file there that contains the program I want. 2. I type "macput -u <filename>". Connection is made and it downloads. 3. Once the text file is on my Mac, I use Binhex and STuffit to get the application(s) and documentation. Jeffrey A. Hallett (hallett@ge-crd.arpa hallett@desdemona.uucp) Software Technology Program General Electric Corporate Research and Development ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many" -- Kirk (STIII) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Disclaimer: I do not guarantee the validity of the content, meaning, or nature of anything in this message as my own sanity may be in doubt. My employer doesn't either and probably won't admit they employ me if called. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
howard@cpocd2.UUCP (Howard A. Landman) (12/01/87)
In article <145@teletron.UUCP> andrew@teletron.UUCP (Andrew Scott) writes: >2) How do I get 'macput' to work? I got the copy posted several months ago > and have it compiled on our UNIX Sys V system. I have tried the > following sequence with no luck: > i) run 'xbin' to create the file.data, file.rsrc and file.info > files. No problems here. > ii) type 'macput file' from terminal mode > iii) select the "XMODEM Download" command from my Mac program ^^^^WRONG^^^^^^ > iv) both programs time out > I have tried Red Ryder, MacTerminal and others. I'm not sure whether > I've got the settings wrong or 'macput' is compiled wrong (it was a > BSD only program as distributed). What is the *exact* procedure used > by people who've done this successfully? (including settings) I had the same problem, using MacTerminal 1.0 (gack, I know, but I haven't figured out how to get an upgrade yet). As far as I can tell, the XMODEM setting doesn't work at all. Instead, set communications to another Macintosh, before you try a transfer. Then, when you run macput, you don't need to do anything on the Mac end, MacTerminal just figures out that the transfer has been started and puts up a little status window with a moving diamond telling you what percentage of the file has been transferred. When it is finished it beeps and returns to terminal emulation. WARNING: This procedure can be sabotaged by any DA that likes to pop up and take control of the machine, particularly screen-savers like Fade To Black. Make sure that any such programs have been disabled before you start a long transfer. If you *DO* start a transfer and (say) Fade To Black wakes up, you have a few seconds before the transfer times out, so it is possible to recover if you move quickly. Just click the mouse and pray ... Now if I could just get a faster modem! -- Howard A. Landman {oliveb,hplabs}!intelca!mipos3!cpocd2!howard howard%cpocd2.intel.com@RELAY.CS.NET "Coming soon - HyperKama - a HyperCard stack of the Kama Sutra"
gillies@uiucdcsp.cs.uiuc.edu (12/01/87)
I suspect there is an error in UNIX MacPut w/MacBinary. To work
around it, I download a binhex file (.hqx) using our unix 4.2 "xmodem"
or "mackermit" facility, then convert it with BinHex. "MacPut -u" may
also work, as the previous note suggests. My Mac II has problems with
several telecommunications programs, so I use various methods.
1. Red Ryder 9.4 -- usually crashes in xmodem. Sometimes works if the
68020 cache is turned off. If you're downloading .hqx files, then you
can use MacKermit (slower), which works reliably.
2. MacTerm -- usually works, but will hang sometimes (clock stops
permanently). I turn "CRC off" in MacTerm, and if I'm switching from
another telecom program (Red Ryder), I switch early so that MacTerm
sees some normal characters before it begins the transfer.
3. BackDown -- (downloading DA) -- I just discovered this and it works
extremely well, it hasn't crashed yet. It supports CRC/Checksum
xmodem downloading.
Don Gillies {ihnp4!uiucdcs!gillies} U of Illinois
{gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu}han@apple.UUCP (Byron Han) (12/01/87)
In article <997@cpocd2.UUCP> howard@cpocd2.UUCP (Howard A. Landman) writes: >In article <145@teletron.UUCP> andrew@teletron.UUCP (Andrew Scott) writes: >>2) How do I get 'macput' to work? I got the copy posted several months ago >> and have it compiled on our UNIX Sys V system. I have tried the >> following sequence with no luck: > >> i) run 'xbin' to create the file.data, file.rsrc and file.info >> files. No problems here. >> ii) type 'macput file' from terminal mode >> iii) select the "XMODEM Download" command from my Mac program > ^^^^WRONG^^^^^^ >> iv) both programs time out > > >I had the same problem, using MacTerminal 1.0 (gack, I know, but I haven't >figured out how to get an upgrade yet). Go to your authorized Apple dealer with your master diskette for MacTerminal and ask for an upgrade. It will probably be free, though this will vary from dealer to dealer. Under MacTerminal 2.x, the procedure for using macput is as follows: 1. put MacTerminal into 'MacTerminal 1.1' file transfer mode 2. use xbin to create the .data, .rsrc, and .info files. 3. type 'macput file'. 4. voila. --------- Byron Han - Apple Computer Inc - 20525 Mariani Ave MS 27Y - Cupertino, CA 95014 "These are my opinions and views only. Apple has nothing to do with them." ATTNet: 408-973-1940 GENIE: BYRONHAN APPLELINK: HAN1 UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!han
dowdy@apple.UUCP (Tom Dowdy) (12/01/87)
In article <6865@apple.UUCP> han@apple.UUCP (Byron Han) writes: >Under MacTerminal 2.x, the procedure for using macput is as follows: To clear up any confusion, it should be pointed out that the procedure outlined below: >1. put MacTerminal into 'MacTerminal 1.1' file transfer mode >2. use xbin to create the .data, .rsrc, and .info files. >3. type 'macput file'. >4. voila. Works with all versions from 2.0 and up, but FYI: The current release version of MacTerminal is 2.2. Those of you who in the past had upgraded to 2.1 might wish to get 2.2, which offers support for ADB keyboards and does stricter error checking with documents for compatability with AppleShare. It is also fully compatible with System 4.1 and up. Additional minor bugs were fixed. Tom Dowdy CSNET: dowdy@apple.CSNET Apple Computer MS:27Y AppleLink:DOWDY1 20525 Mariani Ave UUCP: {sun,voder,amdahl,decwrl}!apple!dowdy Cupertino, CA 95014 "IN VENICE STOP STREETS FILLED WITH WATER STOP PLEASE ADVISE STOP"