[comp.sys.mac] RR 10.3 termcap...

chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (01/04/88)

Anyone have a decent termcap for a Unix sys when dialing in with Red Ryder
10.3?Mine seems flakey...

chuq

Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach		chuq@sun.COM		Delphi: CHUQ

                       What do you mean 'You don't really want to hurt her?'
                                    I'm a Super-Villian! That's my Schtick!

patm@omepd (Pat Mead) (01/06/88)

In article <37701@sun.uucp> chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>Anyone have a decent termcap for a Unix sys when dialing in with Red Ryder
>10.3?Mine seems flakey...
>

Mine also seems to have problems. Is this a possible problem with 
RR10.3 since I think it worked fine with RR9.4? My problem is that vi,
rn, and more seem to lose 2 lines of text at the top of the screen. In vi
you can move the cursor up to the top two lines but they seem to be 
hidden under the status bar.  I tryed using stty to make the term 2
lines less but that gave me 2 less lines at the bottom of the screen and
did nothing for the top 2 lines. What is the problem here?? If anyone 
knows a fix or has a termcap (vt100) that works with RR10.3 please let
me know.

>chuq

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chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (01/07/88)

In article <2676@omepd> patm@omepd.UUCP (Pat Mead) writes:
>In article <37701@sun.uucp> chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>>Anyone have a decent termcap for a Unix sys when dialing in with Red Ryder
>>10.3?Mine seems flakey...
>>
>
>Mine also seems to have problems. Is this a possible problem with 
>RR10.3 since I think it worked fine with RR9.4?

Thanks to help from a number of people, I found the problem. The standard
vt100 (also known at vt100-am) termcap has the 'pt' option set, which tells
the system that this vt100 uses hardware tabs. Red Ryder doesn't deal with
this well.

There are two ways to fix it. You can go in to /etc/termcap and munge out
the pt option, which gives you a non-standard termcap entry, or you can
turn off hardware tabs with "stty -tabs" (which is what I did.)

chuq
Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach		chuq@sun.COM		Delphi: CHUQ

                       What do you mean 'You don't really want to hurt her?'
                                    I'm a Super-Villian! That's my Schtick!

drc@dbase.UUCP (Dennis Cohen) (01/07/88)

I don't know what the problem is, but I just use the standard vt100 termcap that
is on our Pyramid and RR10.3 is the FIRST release of RR where all of the editing
in vi works properly.  Up until now, scrolling and deleting lines messed it all
up, now all is fine.

Dennis Cohen

palmer@tybalt.caltech.edu (David Palmer) (01/08/88)

How can I get RR 10.3?  I have RR 10.0 (after paying $40 for 9.4 with the
promise of free upgrades for eternity, and then paying $20 for 10.0
a year and a half and no free upgrades later, I sure as hell wouldn't
pay Scott Watson any more to upgrade for bug fixes.  But he never notified
me that an upgrade was available.)

Does 10.3 run at more than 1200 Baud?  (I know 10.0 can set the port to
9600, but it still runs at 1200, with a lot of ^S ^Q handshaking)  RR 10.0
is ridiculously slow.

Is anybody willing to send me a RR 10.3 disk for the $5 a new disk, postage,
handling, etc would take?  I am willing to include a photocopy of the
front page of my manual to prove ownership.

		David Palmer
		palmer@tybalt.caltech.edu
		...rutgers!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!palmer
	"Every day it's the same thing--variety.  I want something different."

chuq@plaid.Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (01/09/88)

>How can I get RR 10.3?  I have RR 10.0 (after paying $40 for 9.4 with the
>promise of free upgrades for eternity, and then paying $20 for 10.0
>a year and a half and no free upgrades later, I sure as hell wouldn't
>pay Scott Watson any more to upgrade for bug fixes.  But he never notified
>me that an upgrade was available.)

To get registered as a RR owner and get notification of upgrades (and the
upgrades themselves) you have to join GEnie and the Freesoft roundtable.
Instructions for doing this were in my Red Ryder box (and I joined last
night, as a matter of fact). If you live in the US or Canada, this is the
only way to get RR info and upgrades. GEnie waives their normal $18.00
signup fee for people joining this way, by the way.

>Does 10.3 run at more than 1200 Baud?  (I know 10.0 can set the port to
>9600, but it still runs at 1200, with a lot of ^S ^Q handshaking)  RR 10.0
>is ridiculously slow.

I run my 10.3 off of a 2400 baud modem with no problem.

chuq
Chuq "Fixed in 4.0" Von Rospach		chuq@sun.COM		Delphi: CHUQ

                       What do you mean 'You don't really want to hurt her?'
                                    I'm a Super-Villian! That's my Schtick!

ghoti@killer.UUCP (Alan Perry) (01/10/88)

I have had very limited experience with RR 10.3 (used a friend's copy for a
bit to see if I wanted to buy it or not).  It was very slow and even got 
behind at 2400 baud.  I think that he should spend less of his processing 
time worrying about what the user is doing, and get on with processing the 
throughput.  For instance, it is a nice thing that you can us DA's during 
downloads, but you will be slowing the download considerably!  

I have been told by many sources that Versaterm is the answer for high-speed
telecommunications.  It does get a little behind at 9600 baud, but they say
it is tolerable.

I suppose I should use the standard disclaimer here as I did slam a product,
so:

These opinions are mine.  The names have been changed to protect the insane.

- Ghoti