kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) (01/06/88)
a friend is entering a portuguese text-document and needs to figure out if/how it is possible to enter capital Vowels with an accent, other than A with grave accent and E with acute accent. hints, anyone ?? -- werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (prefered address) kraut@emx.cc.utexas.edu kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (or ...!ut-sally!ut-emx!kraut)
silber@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Jeffrey Silber) (01/06/88)
In article <434@ut-emx.UUCP> kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: > >a friend is entering a portuguese text-document and needs to figure out >if/how it is possible to enter capital Vowels with an accent, other than >A with grave accent and E with acute accent. hints, anyone ?? I believe if you enter option-E, then type your vowel (capital or not), you will get the acute accent. For the grave accent, option-accent grave, then type your vowel. It works in MS-Word and Macwrite. -- "A billion here, a billion there, and pretty soon you're talking real money." --Sen. Everett Dirksen Jeffrey A. Silber/silber@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu Business Manager/Cornell Center for Theory & Simulation in Science & Engineering
derek@mind.UUCP (Derek Gross) (01/07/88)
In article <3290@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> silber@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Jeffrey Silber) writes: >In article <434@ut-emx.UUCP> kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: >>a friend is entering a portuguese text-document and needs to figure out >>if/how it is possible to enter capital Vowels with an accent, other than >>A with grave accent and E with acute accent. hints, anyone ?? >I believe if you enter option-E, then type your vowel (capital or not), >you will get the acute accent. For the grave accent, option-accent grave, then >type your vowel. It works in MS-Word and Macwrite. as I recall, the standard ImageWriter fonts (New York, Geneva, etc.) do not include capital versions of all the accented vowels but the screen versions of the standard LaserWriter fonts (Times, Helvetica, etc.) do; I believe they are shift-option keys, not option keys followed by capitals. I'm not sure, though... check it out in key caps.
kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) (01/07/88)
In article <3290@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu>, silber@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Jeffrey Silber) writes: > In article <434@ut-emx.UUCP> kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: > > > >a friend is entering a portuguese text-document and needs to figure out > >if/how it is possible to enter capital Vowels with an accent, other than > >A with grave accent and E with acute accent. hints, anyone ?? > I believe if you enter option-E, then type your vowel (capital or not), ^^^^^^^ I guess, believing isn't going to make it so ... > you will get the acute accent. For the grave accent, option-accent grave, > then type your vowel. It works in MS-Word and Macwrite. I have, of course, tried this with several different fonts, in several different text-processors, and with the DA KeyCaps .... as I stated, it only works with the capital letter A and grave and capital E and acute .... it does work with all lower-case vowels.... I'm not posting this to pick on Jeff (whose helpful participation I appreciate), but rather to keep the question open ... -- werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (prefered address) kraut@emx.cc.utexas.edu kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (or ...!ut-sally!ut-emx!kraut)
brian@ut-sally.UUCP (Brian H. Powell) (01/07/88)
In article <434@ut-emx.UUCP>, kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: > [Is it] possible to enter capital Vowels with an accent, other than > A with grave accent and E with acute accent. hints, anyone ?? The LaserWriter fonts have the capital vowels with accents available as option-shift characters. Consult the KeyCaps DA to figure them out. Brian H. Powell UUCP: ...!uunet!ut-sally!brian ARPA: brian@sally.UTEXAS.EDU _Not Work_ _soon to be work_ P.O. Box 5899 National Instruments Austin, TX 78763-5899 Austin, Texas (512) 346-0835
jhagen@midas.UUCP (Jarom Hagen) (01/08/88)
In article <434@ut-emx.UUCP>, kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: > > a friend is entering a portuguese text-document and needs to figure out > if/how it is possible to enter capital Vowels with an accent, other than > A with grave accent and E with acute accent. hints, anyone ?? > -- I would like to know this info too. I always assumed that there wasn't room for accent marks on top of capital letters. -- Jarom Hagen UUCP: {calma, novavax, sun, seismo}!gould!jhagen If anything expressed resembles an actual opinion of Gould, living or dead, it was purely coincidental.
hirchert@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (01/08/88)
Sitting with my handy font charts in front of me, I find the following "special" capital letters in the Chicago (bit-mapped) and Helvetica (LaserWriter) Fonts. number Chicago Helvetica description 128 x x A with umlaut 129 x x A with small circle 130 x x C with "tail" 131 x x E with acute accent 132 x x N with tilde 133 x x O with umlaut 134 x x U with umlaut 174 x x AE 175 x x O with slash through it 203 x x A with grave accent 204 x x A with tilde 205 x x O with tilde 206 x x OE 217 x Y with umlaut 229 x A with caret 230 x E with caret 231 x A with acute accent 232 x E with umlaut 233 x E with grave accent 234 x I with acute accent 235 x I with caret 236 x I with umlaut 237 x I with grave accent 238 x O with acute accent 239 x O with caret 241 x O with grave accent 242 x U with acute accent 243 x U with caret 244 x U with grave accent I don't know what dead key sequences are necessary to generate these characters,but in Word 3.0 you can enter command-option-Q followed by number followed by return to enter an arbitrary character by number. If the combination you need isn't listed above, the LaserWriter fonts also have all the various accents as separate characters (96,171,172, and 246-255) so you can build what you want using Word's overstriking capabilities. I hope this is of some use to you. Kurt W. Hirchert National Center for Supercomputing Applications
jhenry@randvax.UUCP (Jim Henry) (01/09/88)
From Inside Macintosh, I-247, the following accented capitals are in the Macintosh character set: 80 A dieresis 81 A ring 82 C cedilla 83 E acute 84 N tilde 85 O dieresis 86 U dieresis CB A grave CC A tilde CD O tilde The LaserWriter can produce all of these but on the ImageWriter there are legal characters that are missing from various fonts.
daveb@geac.UUCP (David Collier-Brown) (01/22/88)
In article <434@ut-emx.UUCP>, kraut@ut-emx.UUCP (Werner Uhrig) writes: > if/how it is possible to enter capital Vowels with an accent, other than > A with grave accent and E with acute accent. hints, anyone ?? In article <829@midas.UUCP> jhagen@midas.UUCP (Jarom Hagen) writes:> >I would like to know this info too. I always assumed that there wasn't room >for accent marks on top of capital letters. My Mac is down, so this is going to be a little disjointed... Canadians also accent capital vowels (when writing in French), so I had the doubtfull pleasure of rewriting a Poisonous-Computer BIOS to support optional diacritics. The technique was to 1) select characters from the displayable set(s) to be replaced by accented letters, 2) change those character's bitmaps, for both screens and a suite of printers, 3) change the key decoder to return the (pseudo-ascii) when a selected sequence of accent-key character-key presses were detected, 4) change the startup to enable/disable the above based on a configuration variable (aka an INIT), 5) debug the *@^!%$@@ BIOS code so all of the above worked for two classes of programs: those which read scan codes and those which read (psuedo-ascii) letters. This is both easier and harder on a Mac: easier, since one can replace code easier than by kludgo-patching, harder because I don't know where to put the accented characters in the keymap. And because I have to resedit all the fonts! --dave -- David Collier-Brown. {mnetor yetti utgpu}!geac!daveb Geac Computers International Inc., | Computer Science loses its 350 Steelcase Road,Markham, Ontario, | memory (if not its mind) CANADA, L3R 1B3 (416) 475-0525 x3279 | every 6 months.