newbery@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Michael Newbery) (03/03/88)
We just got a LWII/NT today (and very nice it is too) and with it some new versions of the LW bitmap fonts plus FONT/DA mover version 3.6. Upon turning it loose on Garamond, which Adobe supply with NFNTs for Bold, Italic and Bold-Italic, I find that the beast STILL doesn't copy the NFNTs, i.e. if I want to move NFNTS I still have to use ResEdit! 1) PLEASE Apple, could you fix FONT/DA mover so it knows about NFNTS? 2) How about supplying bitmap versions of the italic, bold & bold-italic for the normal LW fonts? (OR do I have to buy a LWII/SC for that?) [Alert readers will have (correctly) concluded that I hacked the Adode supplied I, B and BI Garamond FONTs into NFNTS---works fine expect for the pain of moving them around. ] -- Michael Newbery ACSnet: newbery@vuwcomp.nz UUCP: newbery@vuwcomp Une boule qui roule tue les poules. (Landslides kill chickens)
cloos@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (James H. Cloos Jr.) (03/08/88)
This may be a stupid question, but what exactly ARE NFNT resources?? -JimC |==-==--==---==----==-----==------==-------==------==-----==----==---==--==-==| | #include <disclamers.h> | | James H. Cloos, Jr. "I *HATE* quotations" | | cloos@crnlthry.BITNET -Ralph Waldo Emerson | | cloos@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu.ARPA -(emphasis added) | | {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,vax135}!cornell!batcomputer!cloos | |==-==--==---==----==-----==------==-------==------==-----==----==---==--==-==|
hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Robert Joseph Hammen) (03/10/88)
In article <13326@comp.vuw.ac.nz> newbery@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Michael Newbery) writes: >1) PLEASE Apple, could you fix FONT/DA mover so it knows about NFNTS? Here's another vote for this. >2) How about supplying bitmap versions of the italic, bold & bold-italic > for the normal LW fonts? (OR do I have to buy a LWII/SC for that?) Adobe can supply you with bold, italic, and bold italic screen fonts for the "standard" PostScript fonts for something like $50. You can also get them from the Adobe Forum (or the Aldus Forum) of Compu$erve. Note, however, that Adobe's versions of the screen fonts are different from Apple's versions! Also note that Adobe has made changes to the screen fonts (major changes were made when they started shipping non-protected printer fonts). Needless to say, this has made life a real mess for anyone who works for/runs a print shop with a Linotronic and tries to provide customers with accurate output... >Michael Newbery /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Robert Hammen Computer Applications hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu / / Delphi: HAMMEN GEnie: R.Hammen CI$: 70701,2104 / ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
stearns@Apple.COM (Bryan Stearns) (03/15/88)
In article <13326@comp.vuw.ac.nz> newbery@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Michael Newbery) writes: >1) PLEASE Apple, could you fix FONT/DA mover so it knows about NFNTS? Alright, already. Font/DA Mover version 3.8 will support movement of fonts stored in NFNT resources. Under certain conditions (mostly related to resource-ID collisions with other NFNTs), it will even "convert" a font to an NFNT in the process of moving it. I just finished a draft of a technote covering the issues related to this change, for font producers and font-editor authors. As soon as it finishes with the normal review cycle, it will be released with the next regular batch. Version 3.8 will be included in the next release of the system tools, which should be available within a month or so. No, this system release will probably not include any fonts stored as NFNTs, but at least clever ResEditors like yourselves will be able to hack around with them; also, font producers can start selling fonts stored as NFNTs. (The key advantage to storing fonts as NFNTs instead of FONTs is that they don't have the resource-ID-encoding restrictions that FONTs do. Thus, you can have 15872 families in a font file that consist of NFNTs only [in addition to the 256 FONT-based families you can have now]. Also, we can have styled fonts, so that you see a better representation of bold Times than the QuickDraw smearing algorithm's attempt, without having to choose a separate font family: no more BI Times Bold Italic, etc.) Pleeze, be patient and wait for the release: don't clog my mailbox with requests for "beta copies", etc. I'm too busy testing it to send it out. Also, the technote will be out in due time; please don't ask for that either. I'm posting this just to let you know that we do pay some attention to what's needed in the real world. No, there isn't a version 3.7. Don't ask. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bryan Stearns Apple Computer, Inc. Macintosh Applications & Utilities Group 20525 Mariani Ave, M/S 27-AK stearns@apple.COM, stearns%apple@CSNET-RELAY Cupertino, CA 95014 {nsc,dual,sun,ucbvax!mtxinu}!apple!stearns "Laugh while you can, monkey boy!"
newbery@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Michael Newbery) (03/16/88)
In article <7673@apple.Apple.Com> stearns@apple.UUCP (Bryan Stearns) writes: >[...]. I'm posting this just to let you know that we do pay some attention >to what's needed in the real world. And this portion of the real world is duely greatful. I thank you, my FONTS menu thanks you, my System thanks you. I don't suppose you've thought of using outline fonts so I can save some disk space :-) :-)? -- Michael Newbery Internet: newbery@comp.vuw.ac.nz Une boule qui roule tue les poules. (Landslides kill chickens)