slb@drutx.ATT.COM (Sue Brezden) (03/04/88)
This one's for a friend--I don't have either of the machines
involved (I can only dream.)
He does read this group, but cannot post. And I can get mail
replies to him. Here goes:
He would like to transfer text files from the Apple IIe to
the Mac, using the modem ports.
1. How can he go about constructing a null modem
to physically cable the two together (or does
someone make such a thing?) What are the pin-outs?
2. How about software? What does he need?
Thanks for any help.
--
Sue Brezden
ihnp4!drutx!slb
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.
--Thomas Jeffersonsysop@stech.UUCP (Jan Harrington) (03/06/88)
in article <6885@drutx.ATT.COM>, slb@drutx.ATT.COM (Sue Brezden) says: > > This one's for a friend--I don't have either of the machines > involved (I can only dream.) > > He does read this group, but cannot post. And I can get mail > replies to him. Here goes: > > He would like to transfer text files from the Apple IIe to > the Mac, using the modem ports. > > 1. How can he go about constructing a null modem > to physically cable the two together (or does > someone make such a thing?) What are the pin-outs? Does your friend have an RS232 port on the IIe? If so, use an Imagewriter cable. It's a null modem cable and has been used successfully by a number of people to hook a Mac to another computer for just this purpose. > > 2. How about software? What does he need? > You'll need some sort of telecommunications software on either end. If the files are straight ASCII, you can transfer them as ASCII, use XModem, or Kermit. If the files are binary, you'll need XModem or Kermit protocols. Jan Harrington, sysop Scholastech Telecommunications UUCP: ihnp4!husc6!amcad!stech!sysop or allegra!stech!sysop BITNET: JHARRY@BENTLEY ******************************************************************************** Miscellaneous profundity: "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai ********************************************************************************
ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff) (03/16/88)
>in article <6885@drutx.ATT.COM>, slb@drutx.ATT.COM (Sue Brezden) says: >> >> He would like to transfer text files from the Apple IIe to >> the Mac, using the modem ports. >> >> 1. How can he go about constructing a null modem >> to physically cable the two together I have used the following with great success a number of times. This assumes a DB-25 on the Apple II and a DB-9 on the Mac - you'll need a DB-9 to mini-DIN adaptor if you're using a Mac Plus. The numbers refer to pins on each plug. DB-9 DB-25 ---- ----- 1 (FG) ----------------------------- 1 (FG) 9 (RXD) <--------------------------- 2 (TXD) 6 (DTR) ---------------------------- 6 (DSR) 5 (TXD) ---------------------------> 3 (RXD) 7 (CTS) ---------------------------- 20,8,4,5 (DCD,RTS,CTS) 3 (SG) ----------------------------- 7 (SG) >> 2. How about software? What does he need? To go FROM the Apple II TO the Mac is a snap! Assuming that you just want to send a straight text file, from Appleworks for example, you don't need any special software for the Apple II. On the Mac side, you can use any good terminal program with a "capture file" feature. Personally, I prefer FreeTerm, a public-domain terminal program which is widely available, very easy to use, and quite effective at capturing ASCII text files to disk. Here's how: 1. Fire up Appleworks. I'm assuming that you have a Super Serial Card, or the equivalent in your Apple II. Configure Appleworks as though the serial card were a "printer". 2. Fire up FreeTerm on the Mac, turn on the "capture file". Make sure that the baud rates, data words, stop bits, etc are the same on both computers. I suggest you use 1200 baud to keep things safe/simple (the Apple II can't handle 9600 baud very well :-). 3. Now simply tell Appleworks to "print" your file as you normally would. Everything which would appear on the printed page will be transferred to the Mac instead. You can use a text editor such as MDS Edit, MiniWriter, QED, or even MacWrite (in text mode with Monaco) to "clean up" the file on the Mac. We have moved hundreds of K's this exact way. The same technique will work with any Apple II application which can send data to a printer. You could also use a terminal program on the Apple II side, such as ASCII Express or ProTerm, but why make things more complicated than they need to be? BTW, you can even transfer Applesoft BASIC (ugh) program source this way (assuming a serial card in slot 1) by typing: ]PR #1 ]LIST on the the Apple II, which re-directs the console screen output to slot 1. For even more fun, try: ]PR #1 ]IN #1 on the Apple II - now your Mac is a "Terminal" for the Apple II! (why?) Hope this is helpful. -Boyd ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Boyd Ostroff * Technical Director * Department of Theatre * SUNY Oswego Voice: (315) 341-2138 * sysop "The CallBoard": (315) 947-6414 300/1200 baud Internet: ostroff%oswego.oswego.edu@devvax.tn.cornell.edu ----------------------------------------------------------------------------