[comp.sys.mac] please help

ravi@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ravi Subrahmanyan) (05/29/87)

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	I have some questions re. getting around on a Mac..  any help
would be greatly appreciated.

1) Re. Xmodem uploads with PD terminal programs like Freeterm:   How does
one use the Xmodem upload feature in Freeterm?  Using it with regular
Xmodem (on our 4.3 BSD system) does not seem to work.  I've tried
using Freeterm with macget, but that does not work either.  The only thing
that works for me is to upload with Versaterm, with macget running on
the Vax.  Then, the file is uploaded in 3 parts, the resource, data
and info forks, which is what I want.   How could I use Freeterm (or
Termworks) to do this?  

	Summary:  I wan't to upload with Freeterm, and get the 3 forks on 
	the Vax end.  Macget does not seem to work.


2) A lot of programs on PD disks come with a document of some sort;
the icon is usually a sheaf of papers.  Eg., one disk has Packit and
Packit.doc.   How can I look at these doc files?  I don't want any
word processing, I just want to be able to read these files on the
screen.

3) How does one use the DA Miniwriter?  Can it be used to look the doc
files I refered to above?

	Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!  I'm an absolute
novice in using Macs, so please send me any info, however trivial.
Please send mail if that is convenient.  Thanks,

							-ravi

				ravi@mcnc.org      (ARPA)
	{seismo, decvax, ihnp4, ucbvax}!mcnc!ravi  (UUCP)

dave@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Dave Goldblatt) (03/18/88)

From article <1600@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu>, by wel@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (Warren E. Lewis):
>  David is a 7 year old boy who is dying from Cancer.  Before he dies,
>  he has a dream of one day being in the Guinness Book of Records for
>  the person who has had the most postcards sent to them.  If you would
>  like to help David achieve his dream, all you have to do is send a
>  postcard to David as soon as possible.
> 
>                  Send to:
>                            David, c/o Miss McWilliams
>                            St Martin de Porres Infant School
>                            [..]

Please do NOT send any more postcards!  A request was just posted stating
this child HAS achieved his goal and WILL be in the Guinness book; he had
over 144,000 cards sent to him.  Now, however, his family and the
school requests that you stop sending cards, since it's just a burden
on them and the school.

-dg-

-- 

Internet: dave@sun.soe.clarkson.edu    or:   dave@clutx.clarkson.edu
BITNET:   dave@CLUTX.Bitnet            uucp: {rpics, gould}!clutx!dave
Matrix:   Dave Goldblatt @ 1:260/360   ICBM: Why do you want to know? :-)

friedl@vsi.UUCP (Stephen J. Friedl) (03/18/88)

It has been written:
>    I've just recieved some information regarding a little boy,
>    who users of the NET might be interested in helping.
> 
>  David is a 7 year old boy who is dying from Cancer.  Before he dies,
>  he has a dream of one day being in the Guinness Book of Records for
>  the person who has had the most postcards sent to them.  If you would
>  like to help David achieve his dream, all you have to do is send a
>  postcard to David as soon as possible.

This is great!  I've only been on the net a month and I've just
seen the *second* cycle of this perpetual hoax.  This makes the
rounds of magazines, _National Enquirers_ and talk shows (and
apparently the net) all the time and it generates tons of mail to
this fictitous person (the receiving post office hates it).  How
can this happen so often, and why is the little kid always in
England?

     Steve

-- 
Steve Friedl, KA8CMY     ARPA/UUNET/CSNet: friedl@vsi.com       *Hi Mom*
{kentvax, uunet, attmail, {ucbvax, ihnp4, sun}!amdcad!uport}}!vsi!friedl
"It's sad we judge others by their actions and ourselves by our motives"

rew@cbterra.ATT.COM (Bob Warren) (03/18/88)

In article <1600@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu>, wel@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (Warren E. Lewis) writes:
>  David is a 7 year old boy who is dying from Cancer.  Before he dies,
>  he has a dream of one day being the person who has had the most postcards
>  sent to them.  Send a postcard to David.

This has been shown to be an urban legend.  Thorough investigation shows
that no such boy exists or has existed.  The same story has been circulating
for about seven years, cropping up repeatedly despite denials.

Bob Warren
cbosgd!rew

jean@ltuxa.ATT.COM (Jean Airey) (03/19/88)

In article <572@sun.soe.clarkson.edu>, dave@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Dave Goldblatt) writes:
> From article <1600@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu>, by wel@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (Warren E. Lewis):
> >  David is a 7 year old boy who is dying from Cancer.  Before he dies,
> >  he has a dream of one day being in the Guinness Book of Records for
> >  the person who has had the most postcards sent to them.  If you would
> 
> Please do NOT send any more postcards!  A request was just posted stating
> this child HAS achieved his goal and WILL be in the Guinness book; he had
> over 144,000 cards sent to him.  
> -dg-


Are you quite sure that this information is correct?  there has been an
urban legend exactly like this floating around for years (except
the kid was dying in Scotland).





-- 
Jean Airey
ihnp4!ltuxa!hrcca!jean
AT&T -- Hickory Ridge Training Center (312) 971-5135

see1@sphinx.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) (03/19/88)

In article <409@vsi.UUCP> friedl@vsi.UUCP (Stephen J. Friedl) writes:
>>  David is a 7 year old boy who is dying from Cancer.  Before he dies,
>>  he has a dream of one day being in the Guinness Book of Records for
>>  the person who has had the most postcards sent to them.
>
>This is great!  I've only been on the net a month and I've just
>seen the *second* cycle of this perpetual hoax.... tons of mail to
>this fictitous person (the receiving post office hates it).  How
>can this happen so often, and why is the little kid always in
>England?

You're not going to believe this, Steve, but this one is real.  (I've been
on the net for four years, and I'm familiar with perpetual hoaxes.)  The
Urban Legend you're thinking of usually involves "Little Buddy," who lives
in Scotland, not England.  

Until about a year ago, the Guinness Book people swore up and down they
wouldn't include a Little Buddy if he/she/it DID exist...but they apparently 
changed their minds.  David is real (did you notice there's a real school name
on this one?  not a PO Box?), and as another poster has pointed out, the kid
has more than reached his goal.  Don't bother to send him any more.

Okay, so some people are suckers for this sort of thing...I just had to call
the University of Chicago Maroon [affectionately known as the Moron] and quash
yet another Little Buddy plea, this time by a games columnist...but at least
they have good hearts.

Or something.  :-)


-- 
Ellen Keyne Seebacher              University of Chicago Computation Center
staff.ellen@chip.uchicago.edu      ...{ihnp4!gargoyle, oddjob}!sphinx!see1

hollombe@ttidca.TTI.COM (The Polymath) (03/19/88)

In article <1600@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> wel@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (Warren E. Lewis) writes:
>      I've just recieved some information regarding a little boy,
>   who users of the NET might be interested in helping.
>
> [ the usual line about cancer, postcards, and Guinness ]

OHMYGOD!  That's _twice_ in ONE MONTH!

This is an urban legend and an old prank.  The Guinness Book of Records
has no category for most postcards received.  I've seen this posted to the
net at least a dozen times over the last FOUR YEARS.  Maybe
*.announce.newusers needs another category: "Urban legends and pranks
we've all seen too many times".  I'll start it off with:

     o  Dieing boy wants postcards to get into Guinness Book of Records

     o  Blue Star tattoos contain LSD

Any others? )-:

-- 
The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, hollombe@TTI.COM)   Illegitimati Nil
Citicorp(+)TTI                                           Carborundum
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (213) 452-9191, x2483
Santa Monica, CA  90405 {csun|philabs|psivax|trwrb}!ttidca!hollombe
-- 
The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, hollombe@TTI.COM)   Illegitimati Nil
Citicorp(+)TTI                                           Carborundum
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (213) 452-9191, x2483
Santa Monica, CA  90405 {csun|philabs|psivax|trwrb}!ttidca!hollombe

bobr@zeus.TEK.COM (Robert Reed) (03/19/88)

60 Minutes recently reported a similar story of a dying kid wanting to get
in Guiness by collecting postcards.  I don't remember the details, but the
story sound so similar that it is likely they are the same story.  60
Minutes pointed out that 

	THE STORY IS A HOAX!!!!

There was no such child and local postal authorities were trying to get the
word out, because the flood of post-cards was severely hampering their
ability to handle other mail.
-- 
Robert Reed, Tektronix CAE Systems Division, bobr@zeus.TEK

schmidt@mpre.UUCP (Doug Schmidt) (03/20/88)

Hello.  I will die someday.  Before I go, I want to be entered into the
Guinness Book of Records as the person who has been mailed the most money.
Please make your cheque payable to "The Doug Schmidt Early Retirement Fund".
Thank you for your support. :-)

	Doug "I think its terminal" Schmidt

emp@ut-emx.UUCP (naDev~tlhIngan~putulu) (03/20/88)

...Since the story of "Little Buddy" has once again resurfaced, maybe it's
time for me to make my plea:


...I am dying of normal natural causes, and I would like to get into the
Guinness Book of World Records for being the youngest person to personally
own a Cray. If each of you would send all the money you can to this net 
address, I'll be able to afford the down payment.

...remember, time is short. I've only got 40 or 50 years left!



						OM


Discalmer: Yeah, I know it's crass & tasteless, but at least you know it's
	   a hoax, right? :-) :-)


...and if you don't, here's that address so you can send all your money:

tainter@ihlpg.ATT.COM (Tainter) (03/22/88)

In article <3279@zeus.TEK.COM>, bobr@zeus.TEK.COM (Robert Reed) writes:
> 60 Minutes recently reported a similar story of a dying kid wanting to get
> 	THE STORY IS A HOAX!!!!
> Robert Reed, Tektronix CAE Systems Division, bobr@zeus.TEK

Well, my second cousin's mother's friend's neighbor has talked to little Davey
(using a voice synthesizer, since his vocal cords are gone) and he says
"60 MINUTES IS A HOAX!".

--j.a.tainter

awd@dbase.UUCP (Alastair Dallas) (03/26/88)

How about the idea of collecting tabs off coke cans to trade for time on
kidney dialysis machines?  This one keeps coming around, and I have no
idea whether it's legitimate or not, but it sure sounds pretty stupid.
Throw away the aluminum can, we just want the pop top?  Maybe a study
of "urban hoaxes" isn't a bad idea--who starts these things and why?

Alastair Dallas

roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) (03/27/88)

In article <336@dbase.UUCP> awd@dbase.UUCP (Alastair Dallas) writes:
> How about the idea of collecting tabs off coke cans to trade for time on
> kidney dialysis machines?

	We've got a guy here who does that; he's up to something like 5
1-lb coffee cans full of pop tops.  Supposedly his nephew's frat is
collecting pop tops for this dialysis gig.  Never occurred to me that it
was a hoax, but now that you mention it, it does seem a bit wierd.  I don't
know, I give him my pop tops; it makes him happy and doesn't cost me
anything.

	Now, somebody explain to me what this has to do with Macintoshes?
-- 
Roy Smith, {allegra,cmcl2,philabs}!phri!roy
System Administrator, Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016

emp@ut-emx.UUCP (naDev~tlhIngan~putulu) (03/27/88)

In article <3217@phri.UUCP>, roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) writes:
> In article <336@dbase.UUCP> awd@dbase.UUCP (Alastair Dallas) writes:
> > How about the idea of collecting tabs off coke cans to trade for time on
> > kidney dialysis machines?
> 
> 	We've got a guy here who does that; he's up to something like 5
> 1-lb coffee cans full of pop tops.  Supposedly his nephew's frat is
> collecting pop tops for this dialysis gig.  Never occurred to me that it
> was a hoax, but now that you mention it, it does seem a bit wierd.  I don't
> know, I give him my pop tops; it makes him happy and doesn't cost me
> anything.
> 
> 	Now, somebody explain to me what this has to do with Macintoshes?




...easy. The hoax has to do whit what the tabs are used for.

...these tabs are all going to be recycled, and the funds are going to be used
to help all you poor misguided Mac users get proper councelling in hopes that
you will revert back to an IBM before it's too late!


heh,heh,heh....



							OM


Discalmer: Sorry, this space for rent this week. Ask for our cheap rates.

segedy@gsg.UUCP (Catherine Segedy) (03/28/88)

>In article <336@dbase.UUCP> awd@dbase.UUCP (Alastair Dallas) writes:
>> How about the idea of collecting tabs off coke cans to trade for time on
>> kidney dialysis machines?

In article <3217@phri.UUCP> roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) writes:
>	We've got a guy here who does that; he's up to something like 5
>1-lb coffee cans full of pop tops. 
>[...]
>
>	Now, somebody explain to me what this has to do with Macintoshes?

the system is user friendly... collect pop-tops, trade for dialysis?
`all menu driven, no need for a manual!

-cory
(slipping in through the cracks when nobody is looking)

rg2c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Nelson Gasch) (04/01/88)

>...these tabs are all going to be recycled, and the funds are going to be
used>to help all you poor misguided Mac users get proper councelling in hopes
that
>you will revert back to an IBM before it's too late!

>heh,heh,heh....

Jealousy is not a virtue...
                RG