dyker@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Barbara Dyker) (04/15/88)
There is a viscious rumor going around our company that PUKE init, specifically, carries a destructive virus or ailment. The nature of the beast is said to to be a time bomb of sorts in that after x times shutting down (eject all) the beast begins to randomly write to the startup disk. This has gone so far here as an official memorandum from management to require the extradition of this resource. Many of us, myself included have become very fond of the resounding barfing sound when ejecting disks. I have examined PUKE init with ResEdit and have not found anything suspicious. If anyone has any info about possible problems with this resource, please e-mail to me. Thanx. Barbara J. Dyker {nbires,ncar,sunybcs,ucbcad,utah-cs}!boulder!dyker working for *just* another dyker@boulder.Colorado.EDU aerospace company
dplatt@coherent.com (Dave Platt) (04/16/88)
When I first acquired a copy of MacPuke, I installed it on a Mac Plus running System 3.2 and immediately began having problems with floppy disk I/O. Symptoms included a failure to eject the disk, strange (prolonged) whirring and clicking during I/O, and damage to the disk contents requiring reinitialization (Disk First Aid might have salvaged the disk; I didn't try, as its contents weren't important). Needless to say, I deinstalled the INIT! I posted a note about the problems I'd have onto the EchoMac news-echo on FidoNet, and received a couple of responses from people who were using MacPuke with System 4.1 with no difficulty. I have since tested MacPuke on Mac SE and II machines under System 4.2, and have had no problems (aside from a horrified look from my wife, who finds "the sound" thoroughly nauseating). A friend of mine did have a problem after he installed it in a Mac SE that his employer was taking to the San Francisco MacWorld Expo earlier this year... somebody stole the SE! This is clearly a wetware bug. My supposition is that MacPuke is patching itself into the disk I/O path via some mechanism that works properly under System 4.x, but somehow graunches the floppy-disk driver's context under System 3.2, leading to destruction of disks when used in this environment. This sort of problem may be the source of the rumor that MacPuke contains a disk-eating virus/trojan-horse/time-bomb. -- Dave Platt VOICE: (415) 493-8805 USNAIL: Coherent Thought Inc. 3350 West Bayshore #205 Palo Alto CA 94303 UUCP: ...!{ames,sun,uunet}!coherent!dplatt DOMAIN: dplatt@coherent.com INTERNET: coherent!dplatt@ames.arpa, ...@sun.com, ...@uunet.uu.net
moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) (04/18/88)
It's always possible someone put a virus into MacPuke, but there is a way to tell -- there's a new DA called Virus Detective which examines files for various things. It has some documentation on detecting nVIR and the Case virus, supposedly. I'll upload it to comp.mac.binaries (please, no e-mail requests for a copy -- I don't want to be a clearing house for these things). Frankly, I think the whole issue is ridiculously hyped, but there are some nice tools coming out for detecting these things. Besides, Vaccine is a pretty good general purpose detector. "So that's it in a nutshell, Phil. We're here to take over your planet and enslave all you goobers what live here..." "Never mind that -- what about *women's issues*? What do you think about equal pay? I could just weep!" -- Moriarty, aka Jeff Meyer INTERNET: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM Manual UUCP: {uw-beaver, sun, microsoft}!fluke!moriarty CREDO: You gotta be Cruel to be Kind... <*> DISCLAIMER: Do what you want with me, but leave my employers alone! <*>
THJ@PSUVM.BITNET (William J. Sproule Jr.) (04/22/88)
There has been rumors of a virus in MacPuke here at PSU also. It was reported in one of our public labs. I have not had time to check it out, but I have been told someone has hacked the code. I will post more as I get info and have a chance to look at the beast. Bill Sproule bitnet thj@psuvm uucp: ...psuvax1!psuvm.BITNET!thj (814) 863-4356