bills@cca.CCA.COM (Bill Stackhouse) (05/11/88)
Thanks for the replys to my query about fonts substitution with the LW 5.0 software. The real question though is why is it a message that only appears some of the time (or at all) even though the font substitution box is checked? I believe that this is a problem with Word 3.01/LW 5.0 (not sure where). It doesn't even happen on all pages of a document, I have seen page n in regular font and page n+1 in something that looks like a screen dump. -- Bill Stackhouse Cambridge, MA. bills@cca.cca.com
sidhe@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Solas Sidhe--ye faerie fyre) (05/12/88)
Actually, I've seen that particular printer message with more than just Word 3.01. I was trying a beta version of MacDraw II and had the same thing happen. But it gets even better: When I used Helvetica font, I didn't have any problems--just with geneva. Any Ideas? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Lee M. Thompson >> >> sidhe@ucscb.UCSC.EDU >> >> (` >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> (_)olas (` "Mr. LaForge, when I gave you command >> >> (_)idhe of this ship, it was in one piece." >> >DISCLAIMER: Nobody else listens to me, why should you? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
carlile@trwrb.UUCP (Donald E. Carlile) (05/13/88)
I originally composed this as email, but there seems to be enough confusion about LaserWriter Fonts to warrant posting. Strictly speaking, the Laserwriter does not understand Geneva, or any other City name font. It does understand Helvetica, Times, Courier, etc. If you use Geneva, and have font substitution checked, the LW driver will attempt to translate from Geneva to Helvetica, New York to Times, and Monaco to Courier. The results are always less than satisfying, because the spacing of the fonts is slightly different. If you have an old version of Geneva, then the FOND resource will not be correct for translation, and you will get a "Building Bitmap of X font" message, where X is the name of the font you're trying to print. In extreme cases, the Laserwriter can run out of memory while doing this and you will get the "VM+" error. This appears to crash the printing Mac as well. This is probably a LaserWriter driver bug (the crashing, not the VM+ error). The best solution is to stay away from city names. Don Carlile DISCLAIMER: These are my opinions and observations, and are not necessarily shared by my employer. Use at your own risk.
rickk@hpvcla.HP.COM (Rick Klaus) (05/14/88)
The laserwriter has a set of fonts that are internally stored as postscript. These include most of the fonts that you use most of the time, e.g. Times, Helv., Courier, etc. These are listed in the manual. Font substitution only applies to the fonts that were mentioned in previous postings (also listed in the LW manual). Any others MUST be downloaded from the MAC for the LW to use them. If a document uses a font that is not in the LW (and not one of the substituted fonts), the MAC will look for a screen (bitmap) version to download. Its first choice is a font that is 4 times as large as the screen point size since this gives the best quality on the LW. However, if it can't find this large of a size it will use a smaller font that is scaled up, thus the print that looks like a screen dump. The MAC will not download the font more than once for the document unless it has to use the extra memory for another font or for the bitmap of the page. This could make the download appear random... page 1 - uses MYFONT1, downloads to LW page 2 - uses MYFONT1, doesn't download again page 3 - uses MYFONT2, replaces MYFONT1 in memory page 4 - uses MYFONT1 again, requires another download ...etc... If the objection you are having is the print quality, then you need to either only use the LW internal fonts, or get large scale (4x) versions of the fonts that you are using. Hope this is helpful Rick Klaus hplabs!hpvcla!rickk