[comp.sys.mac] Kinetics FastPath box & CAP

cohen@sunybcs (Alexander Cohen) (05/16/88)

	
	We just got a Kinetics FastPath box here to use on our small
LocalTalk network, and we are interested in doing more than merely using
TelNet.

	I would appreciate it if anyone who is using CAP (from Columbia Univ.)
AlisaTalk (I think that's the name), and K-Spool, or other applications
that connect Unix machines on the Ethernet, could contact me and tell me
how well they've worked for you.

	While I'm here, I'd like to say that I was surprised and very
impressed with the performance of the Kinetics FastPath box in conjunction
with TelNet 2.1 from the NCSA (anonymous ftp).  Although I was a little
disturbed when I discovered that you could 'put' a file onto a mac with
such important names as "DeskTop" and "System"--not even so much as an error
message before they were blown away!

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dtw@f.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Duane Williams) (05/16/88)

| While I'm here, I'd like to say that I was surprised and very
| impressed with the performance of the Kinetics FastPath box in
| conjunction with TelNet 2.1 from the NCSA (anonymous ftp).
| Although I was a little disturbed when I discovered that you
| could 'put' a file onto a mac with such important names as
| "DeskTop" and "System"--not even so much as an error message
| before they were blown away!

You can also configure NCSA Telnet on your Mac so that remote
access requires a password.  It's not great security, but it is
better than nothing.

Duane Williams
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roy@phri.UUCP (Roy Smith) (05/16/88)

	We've been running KIP/CAP for about a year now.  We've got a
4.3BSD Vax driving 2 LaserWriters on a PhoneNet network spanning 4 floors
with about a dozen Macs in addition to the LWs.  We've also got 2 LWs
driven by RS-232 from Sun-3s.  The Vax, Suns, and kbox are all on an
ethernet.

	Anyway, CAP seems to work about 90% as well as we'd like.  The
biggest problem is a niggling bug which sometimes causes the LWs to hang
when a print job starts.  Curiously, one of our LWs hangs a lot more often
than the other, and even more curiously, the one which hangs more
frequently is about the furthest node on the net (the other LW sits right
next to the kbox).  Charlie Kim at Columbia has been very helpful trying to
figure out what might be wrong and supply fixes.  We're running CAP release
4, with many patches applied.  I understand that CAP release 5 will be out
soon, and we're eagerly awaiting that, in the expectation that the LW hang
bug will finally go away for good.  We never did get lwsrv (the Unix-side
LaserWriter print spooler) to work, but since it's not really needed in our
environment, we don't miss it.  We've also never experimented with the
other half of CAP, which is AppleShare support (lets you use your unix box
as an AppleShare server).  Bottom line is we probably print several hundred
pages a day using CAP and don't see the need to pay money for a commercial
product to replace it.

	We also use NCSA Telnet, which includes ftp support, on our Macs so
we can do remote logins to our Unix boxes.  NCSA Telnet is a very nice
program.  We've found a few very minor bugs in it, most of which will
probably be fixed in some later version.
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Public Health Research Institute
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stank@orca.TEK.COM (Stan Kalinowski) (05/20/88)

I'm trying to bring up CAP on our 43xx workstations, but I seem to
have run into a problem.  It seems that CAP assumes a class "B"
internet addressing scheme.  Here in Tek Wilsonville, we run a class
"A" ethernet.  We have our Kinetics boxes working with NCSA telnet but
we would like to use CAP's laser printer support.  Has anyone out
there gotten CAP to work on a class "A" network.  What does your
/etc/atalk.local look like?
						Stank
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