cheong@svax.cs.cornell.edu (Weng Seng Cheong) (05/04/88)
I hope this is not an old issue. I intend to take my SE on the plane to Europe. With the airlines' new carry-on luggage regulations, did anyone encounter any problems bringing his/her Mac on board? Helpful suggestions or experiences will be appreciated. Since I am on the subject, what are the good carrying cases for the Mac SE in the market today? Or, what should I avoid? Thanks in advance. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Weng Seng Cheong Dept. of Computer Science Internet: cheong@svax.cs.cornell.edu Cornell University BITnet: cheong@crnlcs Ithaca, NY14850
fleishman-glenn@CS.YALE.EDU (Glenn Fleishman) (05/06/88)
In article <16747@cornell.UUCP> cheong@cs.cornell.edu (Weng Seng Cheong) writes: >I hope this is not an old issue. I intend to take my SE on the plane >to Europe. With the airlines' new carry-on luggage regulations, did >anyone encounter any problems bringing his/her Mac on board? Helpful >suggestions or experiences will be appreciated. > >Since I am on the subject, what are the good carrying cases for the >Mac SE in the market today? Or, what should I avoid? > >Thanks in advance. > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >Weng Seng Cheong >Dept. of Computer Science Internet: cheong@svax.cs.cornell.edu >Cornell University BITnet: cheong@crnlcs >Ithaca, NY14850 The Macintosh Plus fits snugly but perfectly under the middle seat on a Stretch 727, which, as far as I know, is the plane with _the_ smallest amount of space per person not including 18-seat Cessnas. Two ancedotes: 1. I had the same question, before I took my Mac on its first trans- continental trip, so I called Apple Customer Relations. The person I reached didn't know. She went off for about five minutes, came back and said, "I'm not sure. No one here has tried it." "!" I thought. 2. As a switch planes in Denver between an incredibly comfortable and spacious 757, and board a Stretch 727, the head flight attendant says to me, "You'll have to check that." "But I can't. It's sensitive computer equipment. It's not made to be shipped." "I'm sorry, but it won't fit under the seat." "It did on the last plane; it's designed to [okay, so I lied?]." "What was your last plane?" "A 757." "[laughter]." Needless to say, I discovered I didn't lie, the Mac _does_ fit perfectly under a seat. Caveats: The case I purchased from MacAid for about $60 is a soft case with some reinforcement. Had it been a more inflexible case, I wouldn't have been able to position it to stuff it under the middle 727 seat. Glenn I. Fleishman, graphic designer & Mac apologist FLEGLEI@YALEVM.BITNET or through r/Reply "Andy Warhol lives. I think. Maybe not."
alex@rata.vuw.ac.nz (Alex Heatley) (05/10/88)
>I hope this is not an old issue. I intend to take my SE on the plane >to Europe. With the airlines' new carry-on luggage regulations, did >anyone encounter any problems bringing his/her Mac on board? Helpful >suggestions or experiences will be appreciated. As this (and other questions) seems to come up fairly regularly, perhaps we could have a "frequently asked questions" posting for this group. We could include answers to such questions as: 1) Can I use my US Mac in foreign countries. 2) what is the best way to ship a Mac by plane? 3) What are the best extrenal drives for the Mac (a potentially emotive issue here). etc. etc. etc. Is there anyone out there (for example, the man who never sleeps, Chuq) who would be interested in maintaining and posting such an article on a regular basis? Alex Heatley Computing Services Centre Domain: alex@comp.vuw.ac.nz Victoria University of Wellington Path: ...!uunet!vuwcomp!alex P.O Box 600, New Zealand. Trolls can often be found under bridges ... or in Computing Departments.
martyl@bucket.UUCP (Marty Lee) (05/11/88)
In article <28606@yale-celray.yale.UUCP>, fleishman-glenn@CS.YALE.EDU (Glenn Fleishman) writes: > In article <16747@cornell.UUCP> cheong@cs.cornell.edu (Weng Seng Cheong) writes: > >I hope this is not an old issue. I intend to take my SE on the plane > >to Europe. With the airlines' new carry-on luggage regulations, did > >anyone encounter any problems bringing his/her Mac on board? Helpful > >suggestions or experiences will be appreciated. > > The Mac will fit with plenty of room under the seats of an L-1011 as there really isn't an overhead bin. TWA didn't even flinch when I brought it on. On Alaska, Contenental and America West (737) the SE fit in the overhead with NO room to spare. It will also fit under the seat if do not have a window seat OR an isle seat. NOTE: some of the Alaska 737s are also used for cargo and DONOT have overhead bins that will hold a Mac....you'll be lucky to get your hat in. The Mac SE and the Imagewriter is a pain to carry through an airport though. BTW some of the guys here at work ship their Macs using these big blue armored cases that are about 2 X 2 X 1.5 feet and cost $500 each. They are lined with dense foam close to the outside and soft foam closest to the Mac. Each Mac also has a non resetable G-meter attached to it so any large impacts will be noted. G-Meters come in non reset and reset types from 1/4 G to 10 G. They are only a few bucks each $20-30 max and have peel off backs to stick on any smooth surface.....its cheap insurance. We just put the Macs into their MacPack bags and stick the bags into the cases. Its been a year and nothing has gone wrong yet......let hope..... teksce (Fastest path) / \ tektronix!reed! omen !bucket!martyl (Marty Lee) \ / percival
groves@noao.arizona.edu (Lee Groves) (05/12/88)
I would think twice about stowing my mac in the overhead bin, at least if you will be flying on Hawiian Airlines.....
clive@drutx.ATT.COM (Clive Steward) (05/13/88)
From article <884@bucket.UUCP>, by martyl@bucket.UUCP: > > The Mac will fit with plenty of room under the seats of an L-1011 as there > really isn't an overhead bin. TWA didn't even flinch when I brought it on. > Don't know that this is such a good idea. Last night I read an article in .risks about a newly common injury on airplanes -- descriptions of victims concussed to the point of partial one-side paralysis, etc., from being hit by portable computers dropping out of the overhead bins. I'm sure that even before the article, I wouldn't want to sit under one. Clive Steward
cheong@svax.cs.cornell.edu (Weng Seng Cheong) (05/16/88)
I am forwarding this message for Eric who responded to my earlier posting .... (Start of message) Please forward this to Usenet, as I have no access to it. I have been able to fit my Mac under the seats of and in the overhead compartment of all the Boeing planes on which I have flown, from the various incarnations of the 727 through the 757. I have had difficulties fitting it under the seats of Fokker planes, which are used for some short runs in the U.S., and that French airbus, the number of which escapes me. (Perhaps it is A-303 or something like that.) I also vaguely remember having trouble fitting it under the seat of a Lockheed plane: it went, but only after the application of great force. I use an old-fashioned Apple carrying case (with the unsafe strap removed, of course). I am in the habit of calling the airlines and finding out which planes they use for the entirety of their run. They enjoy telling me, as the information is easily available to them, but hardly anybody ever asks. Eric Pepke pepke%fsu.mfenet@nmfecc.arpa Supercomputer Computations pepke%scri.hepnet@lbl-csa2.arpa Research Institute pepke%fsu.bitnet@wiscvm.wisc.edu Florida State University "You're living in your own private Idaho Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052 On the ground like a wild potato." Disclaimer: My employers seldom even LISTEN to my opinions. Meta-disclaimer: Any society that needs disclaimers has too many lawyers. (End of message) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Weng Seng Cheong Dept. of Computer Science Internet: cheong@svax.cs.cornell.edu Cornell University BITnet: cheong@crnlcs Ithaca, NY14850
rusty@pnet06.cts.com (05/18/88)
I went Island Hopping in Hawaii a few years back and found that it also
depends where you sit. Aisle seats and window seats have different amounts of
room under the seats. Aisle seats often have smaller spacings to make way for
the little gaurds that keep the luggage from spilling into the aisle...
Rusty Hodge, HCR Inc, 1588 N. Batavia St. Orange, CA 92667 (714) 974-6300
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the manner of doing it. - William Hazlittmbk@hpsemc.HP.COM (Miles Kehoe) (05/20/88)
Concerning Macs on airplanes.... (or any other portable) some airports are beginning to want to see that your computer works before they allow you thru security. I guess the premise is 'If the thing works, there can't be a bomb planted in it'. I only meniton this because on a recent trip, I decided to bring along a Compaq at the last minute and, as usual, I tossed the power cable into my suitcase which I checked at the counter. By the time I got to security, I was not able to boot up my system and prove it to be a computer, so I had to argue with the security manager and finally open the darn thing up to let him 'visually' inspect it before I could go thru. So... no matter what... if you carry it along, bring it's power cable too! (I know... my Mac case has room for everything too.. just wanted to toss in the caveat, since not many airports have the right tools to open a mac) Miles
bmayer@bucc2.UUCP (05/23/88)
/* Written 12:57 pm May 19, 1988 by hpsemc.HP.COM!mbk in bucc2:comp.sys.mac */ Concerning Macs on airplanes.... (or any other portable) some airports are beginning to want to see that your computer works before they allow you thru security. I guess the premise is 'If the thing works, there can't be a bomb planted in it'. I only meniton this because on a recent trip, I decided to bring along a Compaq at the last minute and, as usual, I tossed the power cable into my suitcase which I checked at the counter. By the time I got to security, I was not able to boot up my system and prove it to be a computer, so I had to argue with the security manager and finally open the darn thing up to let him 'visually' inspect it before I could go thru. So... no matter what... if you carry it along, bring it's power cable too! (I know... my Mac case has room for everything too.. just wanted to toss in the caveat, since not many airports have the right tools to open a mac) Miles /* End of text from bucc2:comp.sys.mac */ just to let y'all know, since the topic of compaq's did come up, that some times, and only sometimes will the airlines give you trouble with bringing the compaq on board, expecially on crowded flights. You might also have this problem with other computers. As someone said earlier, just argue with them, and they'll let you take the computer on. (p.s. just tell them you go in the baggage compartment before you'll put the computer there; then they'll know your serious.
jdm@ut-emx.UUCP (Jim Meiss) (05/27/88)
Last time I took my Mac on an airplane (I've done it about 10 times now), I did indeed have to boot it before they would let me through security. I have an SE HD20, so I also had to connect the mouse so that I could run the shut-down manager, and be sure the heads were properly parked. Imagine me rolling the mouse around on the XRay machine.... Looks silly. BTW, I'm sure a dedicated terrorist would find plenty of room inside the Mac case for a bomb, and still leave it in fine working order Jim Meiss jdm@emx.utexas.edu jdm%uta.MFENET@nmfecc.ARPA -------------------------------------------------------------------------
cramer%clem@Sun.COM (Sam Cramer) (06/01/88)
In article <2794@ut-emx.UUCP> jdm@emx.UUCP (James Meiss) writes: > BTW, I'm sure a dedicated terrorist would find plenty >of room inside the Mac case for a bomb, and still leave it in >fine working order Unfortunately true. A PLO terrorist (aided by Syrian Intelligence) tried to send his pregnant Irish girl friend on an El-Al plane with a shoulder bag containing high explosive in a very thin false bottom. The triggering device was a pocket calculator fitted with a tiny detonator. Of course, it's probably worthwhile to weed out the amateurs... Sam Cramer {cbosgd,decwrl,hplabs,seismo,ucbvax}!sun!cramer cramer@sun.com
jack@cs.glasgow.ac.uk (Mr Jack Campin) (06/03/88)
In article <54968@sun.uucp> cramer@sun.UUCP (Sam Cramer) writes: > A PLO terrorist (aided by Syrian Intelligence) tried >to send his pregnant Irish girl friend on an El-Al plane with a shoulder >bag containing high explosive in a very thin false bottom. Sam Cramer's opinions are well known to readers of soc.culture.jewish and talk.politics.mideast, so it isn't surprising he should claim that, but I recall nothing in the trial that in any way associated Hindawi with the PLO. -- ARPA: jack%cs.glasgow.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk USENET: jack@cs.glasgow.uucp JANET:jack@uk.ac.glasgow.cs useBANGnet: ...mcvax!ukc!cs.glasgow.ac.uk!jack Mail: Jack Campin, Computing Science Dept., Glasgow Univ., 17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8QQ, SCOTLAND work 041 339 8855 x 6045; home 041 556 1878