ajq@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (06/15/88)
OK, we all know that the HD Backup program distributed by Apple with System updates is a functional hard disk backup program. It's generally reliable (isn't it?). At least I've had no problems with it. The new situation: We've now got AppleShare up and running on a Mac Plus with a 91 megabyte hard drive, and it's time to do backups. To floppies, unfortunately, as we don't have a tape backup unit. Is there a program better than Apple's HD Backup that'll work well with AppleShare? Everything's gotta be saved ... files, folders, all access privileges, all comments in the Get Info boxes (very very important), all users, groups, etc. etc. I don't care if I do the backup from a workstation or if I have to take the server offline and do it from there. And then there's the issue of periodical incremental backups, too ... how easy will those be? Please post responses, if appropriate. I don't think hard disk backup programs have been discussed recently. Mac Plus/EMAC 91D HD/Sys 4.2/Find 6.0/ApShare 1.1 --- John O'Malley \ Personal Computing \ Purdue University \ (317) mace.cc.purdue.edu!ajq \ Learning Resource Center \ Computing Center \ 494-9944
denbeste@bgsuvax.UUCP (William C. DenBesten) (06/15/88)
From article <153@mace.cc.purdue.edu>, by ajq@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley): > Is there a program better than Apple's HD Backup that'll work well with > AppleShare? Everything's gotta be saved ... files, folders, all access > privileges, all comments in the Get Info boxes (very very important), all > users, groups, etc. etc. I am using network diskfit. It seems to do the job well. If you take the hard drive off line to do the backup, it will save all file access priviliges, users and groups, and other such fun stuff. > there's the issue of periodical incremental backups, too ... how easy will > those be? Diskfit makes incrementals very easy. The only problem is that you need to bring the server down to do the backup. ---------- I am doing my backups a little differently. I make sure that all folders belong to a group, and have group read priviliges. Custodian belongs to all groups. When I backup, I do it as custodian, and backup all files, regardless of owner. From the net, There is a bit in the LAYO resource of system 6.0 that causes new folder to inherit their file protection from their parent. This is the final key to making sure that custodian has read access everywhere. I have not played with this yet, as I am still using older system software. Everytime that I use the administration program, I save the users and groups file in a folder that custodian can look at, so my users and groups are saved. I suspect, however, that my access priviliges are not getting saved. I have a hard drive on order that I am going to use to test this hypothesis before I put it to its intended use. The manual is silent about Get Info comments. I will check them out also when my hard drive arrives. ----------- Network disk fit is also a multi-launch application that everyone on the net can use (up to 32 people, by license) to back up their own hard drives, and files that they own on the server. I am contemplating making everyone responsible for backing up folders that belong to them on the server, and I will do only those that belong to custodian, or myself. -- William C. DenBesten denbeste@bgsu.edu