thecloud@pnet06.cts.com (Ken Mcleod) (07/06/88)
Just got hold of an INIT, written by Scott Armitage, that allows
512KE owners (like me) to utilize System 6.0's Sound cdev for
beep sounds. As we all know now, the Sound cdev writes info into
the extra bytes of PRAM that a Mac+ has, but a 512KE doesn't.
I would imagine that serial port info gets overwritten instead
on a 512KE, causing the problems that several people here experienced.
This INIT is a patch that appends the info to the System file instead
of writing it into PRAM.
If there is interest, I will post it as a binhex file.
Disclaimer: He said it could be freely distributed.....
Ken McLeod ========================= ....... ======================
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INET: thecloud@pnet06.cts.com //// ruthless efficiency."sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) (07/08/88)
In article <269@hodge.UUCP> thecloud@pnet06.cts.com (Ken Mcleod) writes: > Just got hold of an INIT, written by Scott Armitage, that allows >512KE owners (like me) to utilize System 6.0's Sound cdev for >beep sounds. As we all know now, the Sound cdev writes info into >the extra bytes of PRAM that a Mac+ has, but a 512KE doesn't. >I would imagine that serial port info gets overwritten instead >on a 512KE, causing the problems that several people here experienced. >This INIT is a patch that appends the info to the System file instead >of writing it into PRAM. Are we sure that this is true? Maybe I missed the discussion (our news feed was down for a couple of days), but have the following questions been conclusively answered: 1) Does System 6.0 work on a 512KE with 3rd-party memory and SCSI upgrades? a) If it does, are there parts of it (like the Sound Manager) that don't? If not, why not (in other words, why was it designed to use PRAM that exists only on Mac Pluses and above)? 2) Is it *supposed* to work, or is it just chance (i.e., has Apple *officially* dropped support for anything less than a Mac Plus)? I haven't gotten the new System yet, but I intend to *if* Apple is officially supporting upgraded 512KE's. If this is the case, I'd be interested in the INIT to allow the Sound Manager to work. Otherwise, I'll stick with 5.0. A response from someone at Apple would really be appreciated, because I sense that there are others out there who are similarly confused. -- Steve Baumgarten | "New York... when civilization falls apart, Davis Polk & Wardwell | remember, we were way ahead of you." {uunet,cmcl2}!esquire!sbb | - David Letterman
roger@homxc.UUCP (Another Technical Editor) (07/08/88)
In article <269@hodge.UUCP>, thecloud@pnet06.cts.com (Ken Mcleod) writes: | | Just got hold of an INIT, written by Scott Armitage, that allows | 512KE owners (like me) to utilize System 6.0's Sound cdev for | beep sounds. | If there is interest, I will post it as a binhex file. Yes! Please post it. I'm getting tired of getting the Mac II Vanilla Beep no matter what I select. | Ken McLeod ========================= ....... ====================== Roger Tait ..ihnp4!homxc!roger (201) 949-1136 AT&T Bell Labs Technical Publications Holmdel, NJ
dgold@Apple.COM (David Goldsmith) (07/08/88)
In article <460@esquire.UUCP> sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes: > 1) Does System 6.0 work on a 512KE with 3rd-party memory > and SCSI upgrades? > > 2) Is it *supposed* to work, or is it just chance (i.e., has Apple > *officially* dropped support for anything less than a Mac Plus)? > System Tools 6.0 supports the Macintosh Plus, Macintosh SE, and Macintosh II. The current recommended system for the Macintosh 512KE is System 3.2, Finder 5.3. You can attempt to use a later version, of course, but Apple makes no guarantees that it will work, especially if your machine has third party hardware upgrades. David Goldsmith Apple Computer, Inc. AppleLink: GOLDSMITH1 BIX: dgoldsmith 20525 Mariani Avenue, MS: 27AJ UUCP: {nsc,dual,sun,voder,ucbvax!mtxinu}!apple!dgold Cupertino, CA 95014 CSNET: dgold@apple.apple.com
Scott_M_Wilde@cup.portal.com (07/09/88)
I have a 512e with a Dove 2M upgrade and SCSI port. As far as I
can tell , System 6.0 works fine except for the Sound and Map CDEVs.
Using the extended PRAM INIT (I was about to write one myself), Sound
CDEV works fine. The Map CDEV took a little digging, but after a little
trial and error, I found that setting the 'extended PRAM valid' bit in
ththe hardware config flags enabled Map as well. I wrote a trivial INIT
to do the setting on startup. It may not be an official solution, but
it's worked fine for me and I'll stick with system 6.0, thank You
Scott Wildethecloud@pnet06.cts.com (Ken Mcleod) (07/10/88)
I've been getting lots of email requests, so I'll just post it here...
The following is a binhex file of a StuffIt archive containing the
XPRAM INIT for upgraded 512KE Macs. It allows those without Mac+ logic
boards (and hence, extended PRAM) to use System 6.0's Sound cdev for
beep sounds. The INIT was written by Scott Armitage.
(This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
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Ken McLeod ========================= ....... ======================
UUCP: {crash uunet}!pnet06!thecloud :. .: Chief Weapons of UNIX:
ARPA: crash!pnet06!thecloud@nosc.mil :::.. ..::: "Fear, surprise, and
INET: thecloud@pnet06.cts.com //// ruthless efficiency."Mark_Peter_Cookson@cup.portal.com.UUCP (07/11/88)
Do you think that you could post the PRAM INIT and your little INIT so that others could use it? Thanks in advance. Mark Cookson
melnik@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ofer Melnik) (07/11/88)
Can someone mail me the sound CDEV for a -MAC PLUS- ? Thanks in advance, Ofer Melnik [----------------------------------------+----------------------------------] [Ofer Melnik -- Rutgers University ! "If its not in the computer, ] [ melnik@topaz.rutgers.edu ! it doesn't exist." ] [----------------------------------------+----------------------------------]
bill@procase.UUCP (Bill Arnett) (07/12/88)
In article <269@hodge.UUCP> thecloud@pnet06.cts.com (Ken Mcleod) writes: > > Just got hold of an INIT, written by Scott Armitage, that allows >512KE owners (like me) to utilize System 6.0's Sound cdev > ... > If there is interest, I will post it as a binhex file. I am interested. Very interested. I'm going nuts switching back and forth to System 5.0. Please post it [or mail ME a copy :-) ]. -- Bill Arnett {ucbvax!tolerant,hplabs!hpda}!procase!bill proCASE Corp., Santa Clara CA 408/727-0714
bill@procase.UUCP (Bill Arnett) (07/12/88)
In article <269@hodge.UUCP> thecloud@pnet06.cts.com (Ken Mcleod) writes: > Just got hold of an INIT, written by Scott Armitage, that allows >512KE owners (like me) to utilize System 6.0's Sound cdev > ... > If there is interest, I will post it as a binhex file. I am interested. Very interested. I'm going nuts switching back and forth to System 5.0. Please post it [or mail ME a copy :-) ]. -- Bill Arnett {ucbvax!tolerant,hplabs!hpda}!procase!bill proCASE Corp., Santa Clara CA 408/727-0714
thomas@uvabick.UUCP (Thomas Fruin) (07/12/88)
dgold@Apple.COM (David Goldsmith @ Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA) writes: > The current recommended system for the Macintosh 512KE is System 3.2, > Finder 5.3. How safe is it to use both Mac 512KE's with the above System software and SEs and IIs with System 6.0 on one AppleTalk network, with AppleShare servers and LaserWriters? Liaison comes up with this dialog "You are running an old version of AppleTalk. You had better upgrade for better performance", when you use anything but System 6.0. Any comments on that anyone? -- Thomas Fruin fruin@hlerul5.BITNET University of Leiden thomas@uvabick.UUCP University of Amsterdam dibs@well.UUCP hol0066.AppleLink 2:512/114.FidoNet The Netherlands
dorner@uxg.cso.uiuc.edu (07/14/88)
>Well I don't see what "3rd party hardware upgrades" have to do with >it. I mean, I don't have to have APPLE memory in my Mac, do I? >... >What we would like is a *definitive* answer from someone at Apple. >... I don't think we're going to get any more definitive answer than what we've got; System 3.2 is the only system guaranteed to work on a 512E. I guess the logic is as follows: An Apple 512E has 512K of memory; it therefore can't run newer software. A 512E with >512K of memory has a 3rd party something in it, so Apple forswears all responsibility for it; in their eyes, it just does not exist. That's the price we pay for not wanting to give Apple as many of our hard earned $ as it wanted. ---- Steve Dorner, U of Illinois Computing Services Office Internet: dorner@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu UUCP: {convex,uunet}!uiucuxc!dorner IfUMust: (217) 333-3339