[comp.sys.mac] Stripping the System

ring@cg-atla.UUCP (Steve Ring) (07/12/88)

A while ago, I wrote asking for help in stripping the system (4.1) of
resources that, for a Mac+, are not needed. This was taken from an article
in the Sept. '87, Mackey, re-printed from Mouse Tracks, Portland user Group,
by Ken Peterson. Specifically mentioned are 

Type	ID	Size 	Why		Comments
____	__	____	__________	______________________
cicn	31	906	MacII only	special MacII Icon
DRVR	 9	3282	in ROM		.MPP Appletalk driver
DRVR	10	2404	in ROM		.ATP AppleTalk driver
PACK	4	4536	in ROM		Floating-point math
PACK	5	4190	in ROM		Transcendental math
PACK	12	9792	Mac II only	Color Picker
PTCH	105	5696	128/512 only	Patch for 64K Roms
PTCH	630	12958	SE only		Patch for II Rom
PTCH	376	12004	MAC II only	Patch for II Rom
snd	all	21471	MAC II only	startup sounds
SNTH	all	7380	Mac II only	sound synthesizer
WDEF	0	2142	in ROM		Default window definition
___________________________________________________________________

This amounts to about 85K that can be eliminated. A pared down system file
on a Mac+ would be highly desirable for any number of reasons.

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? Could some one confirm these are the correct ones, or otherwise respond  ?
? in some way on how to strip the system file on a Mac+ to only what is    ?
?  needed on the Mac+                                                      ?
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sbb@esquire.UUCP (07/12/88)

In article <5106@cg-atla.UUCP> ring@cg-atla.UUCP (Steve Ring) writes:
>A while ago, I wrote asking for help in stripping the system (4.1) of
>resources that, for a Mac+, are not needed.

Another good way of stripping a System for a Plus is to use the dreaded
Installer [ :-) ] to install the System to a disk that DOES NOT already
have one.  That is, first delete the System, Finder, etc. from your
target disk, then boot with the new System and run Installer.

I found that this reduced the size of my Plus System from 330k to 280k
(or numbers in that area).  The 330k is the standard, unstripped size
of the System, so even if the numbers are wrong, you get the idea.

Oh yeah, if you do this, make sure you have 2 disk drives, or you're
in for some swapping...  :-(

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brewer@clio.las.uiuc.edu (07/14/88)

	I don't know if people just didn't know it exists or what, but in
System Software 6.0 there is a set of installer scripts to do just that
(install a minimum System file on a particular disk) they are on Utilities 1,
I believe. They are called Minimum Scripts, and there is one for each type of
Mac (Plus, SE, II). I have not used them, but thats what Apple claims they do..


Robert Brewer
    brewer@clio.las.uiuc.edu
    {ihnp4 | convex | pur-ee}!uiucuxc!clio!brewer

jg@eagle.ukc.ac.uk (J.Grant) (07/15/88)

In article <5106@cg-atla.UUCP> ring@cg-atla.UUCP (Steve Ring) writes:
)A while ago, I wrote asking for help in stripping the system (4.1) of
)resources that, for a Mac+, are not needed. This was taken from an article
)in the Sept. '87, Mackey, re-printed from Mouse Tracks, Portland user Group,
)by Ken Peterson. Specifically mentioned are 
)
)Type	ID	Size 	Why		Comments
)____	__	____	__________	______________________
)...
)PTCH	105	5696	128/512 only	Patch for 64K Roms
)PTCH	630	12958	SE only		Patch for II Rom
)PTCH	376	12004	MAC II only	Patch for II Rom
)...

So, does 4.1 run on 64K ROMS ?  Actually it doesn't, well not for
anyone that I know, unless you know different ...

Soooo, why is the patch there at all ???

earleh@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Earle R. Horton) (07/16/88)

In article <5367@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> jg@ukc.ac.uk (J.Grant) writes:
>So, does 4.1 run on 64K ROMS ?  Actually it doesn't, well not for
>anyone that I know, unless you know different ...
>
>Soooo, why is the patch there at all ???

I have run 4.1 on a 512k with 64k ROMs.  This was a long time ago, 
the only application which I ran was VersaTerm PRO 1.0, and I no
longer have access to that machine, which was upgraded anyway, but I
distinctly remember that it did run.  I don't think the performance
was real good, however.

Earle R. Horton.  H.B. 8000, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755