UOO@PSUVM.BITNET (07/26/88)
Has anyone heard of Maple, Maxima, or any other Symbolic Equation Solvers? Or where could I find info on them? Jean Thompson
dsimkins@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (07/27/88)
There is a program called Mathematica from Wolfram Research Inc. that runs on Mac II's, Pluses and SE's. The version for the II runs $795, and $495 for the others. The program is quite powerful, it is its own language, so building special purpose routines is easy. For more info, contact Wolfram Research, Inc. P.O. Box 6059 Champaign, IL 61821 217-398-0700
gae@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) (07/27/88)
In article <46100193@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> dsimkins@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu writes: > >There is a program called Mathematica from Wolfram Research Inc. that runs >on Mac II's, Pluses and SE's. The version for the II runs $795, and $495 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >for the others. But not with one megabyte RAM. -- Gerald A. Edgar TS1871@OHSTVMA.bitnet Department of Mathematics gae@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu The Ohio State University gae@osupyr.UUCP Columbus, OH 43210 70715,1324 CompuServe
jdm@ut-emx.UUCP (Jim Meiss) (07/27/88)
>In article <46100193@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> dsimkins@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu writes: >> >>There is a program called Mathematica from Wolfram Research Inc. that runs >>on Mac II's, Pluses and SE's. The version for the II runs $795, and $495 > >But not with one megabyte RAM. ^^^ In fact you must have 2, and really need 2.5Meg!!! Note that nowhere in the ads for this product, nor on the package does it mention this!!!! Furthermore, with Mathematica comes only a short manual on the Mac interface, and no description of the "kernal" which is what you really use. This means you have to go to Addison Wesley and spend another $30 or so to get the book Mathematica by Wolfram. I think this is really cheesy. When you spend $500 for a software package you expect the manual to come with it. In my opinion, Mathematica is practically unusable without the manual. Now I should be careful to say that there is extensive online help in Mathematica, and this seems very nicely implemented, and for all I know has all the information in there. But I simply can't find a list of functions, for example, with their arguments. So the moral is, if you order this package, complain to Wolfram research about this! Jim Meiss jdm@emx.utexas.edu jdm%uta.MFENET@nmfecc.ARPA -------------------------------------------------------------------------
chn@a.lanl.gov (Charles Neil) (07/28/88)
In article <683@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu>, gae@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes: > In article <46100193@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> dsimkins@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu writes: . > . >There is a program called Mathematica from Wolfram Research Inc. that runs . >on Mac II's, Pluses and SE's. The version for the II runs $795, and $495 . ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ . >for the others. . . But not with one megabyte RAM. I would like to see responses from owners of Mathematica in either of its incarnations ($495 or $795) regarding how it compares in its symbolic manipulation with other software, such as MACSYMA. As far as I know, Mathematica is the only commercial symbolic manipulator that's been ported to the mac. -- Charlie Neil (chn@lanl.gov) Los Alamos National Laboratory (505) 665-0978
gz@spt.entity.com (Gail Zacharias) (07/28/88)
Macsyma can be brought up on the Mac relatively easily. I did just that last week (under Coral's Allegro CL), and will try to clean up my mods and make them available for inclusion into the DOE Macsyma distribution as soon as I get some more time to play with it. However, a fully loaded Macsyma just barely fits on a 4Meg Mac (it runs, but gc's a lot). It should be possible to make it fit more comfortably in 4Meg by reviving the old autoloading scheme, but that's probably the best that can be done with currently available Lisp technology. So if you're looking for something in the 2Meg range, forget Macsyma. -- gz@entity.com ...!mit-eddie!spt!gz Sex is the mathematics urge sublimated
gae@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) (07/28/88)
In article <635@a.lanl.gov> chn@a.lanl.gov (Charles Neil) writes: >As far as I know, Mathematica is the only commercial symbolic manipulator >that's been ported to the mac. >-- Maple runs on the Mac. And it runs quite well with only one megabyte RAM. -- Gerald A. Edgar TS1871@OHSTVMA.bitnet Department of Mathematics gae@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu The Ohio State University gae@osupyr.UUCP Columbus, OH 43210 70715,1324 CompuServe
wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu (Pierce T. Wetter) (07/28/88)
Ron Avitzur at stanford has also written a simple symbolic manuipulator called Milo, its due to be released in time for MacWorld. It is very nice and very useful as scratch paper, it can also graph functions (both parametric and f(x)), and you can paste your resulting graphs and equations into other programs. Its very useful for doing grunge, but its not very good at esoteric stuff like smart integration etc. (This is for version 0.84 your mileage may very.) There used to be a pre-release version on sumex-aim, be forewarned that that version was very early on and the new release is much better & stable. If the street price is less then $200 is qujite definitely worth the money if only for its equation and graphing facilities. Pierce ---------------------------------------------------------------- wetter@tybalt.caltech.edu Race For Space Grand Prize Winner. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Useless Advice #986: Never sit on a Tack.
flip@pixar.UUCP (Flip Phillips) (07/28/88)
In article <683@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu> gae@osupyr.mast.ohio-state.edu.UUCP (Gerald Edgar) writes: >In article <46100193@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu> dsimkins@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu writes: >> >>There is a program called Mathematica from Wolfram Research Inc. that runs >>on Mac II's, Pluses and SE's. The version for the II runs $795, and $495 [...] > >But not with one megabyte RAM. Here's the scoop on Mathmatica: Mathmatica consists of a kernel and a front end. It is available on a veratible plethora of machines. (Sun, Mac, SGI, Apollo, Cray soon, etc) The two parts are seprable, that is, you can run the kernal on your cray and your front end on the Mac... If you're doing this youCAN run the front end in 1 meg on a mac plus,se,ii. If you want to run both the kernaal and thge front end on the mac they suggest you have at least 2.5 meg. I suggest a minimum of 4meg. It is a great program, the new release for the Mac has one of the best user interfaces for any program I've seen. A good help system, a 'Why the beep?' menu item which tells you why the last error occurred and when it happened. really hip. If you want to learn more about it, pick up a copy of 'Mathmatica' at you local book store or from Addison Wesley. This book is the 'kernal manual' which isn't included when you buy the actual software. I guess they did this because there is one kernal and several front ends. -- Flip Phillips {sun | ucbvax}!pixar!flip Pixar - Marin County, California