robiner@ganelon.usc.edu (Steve) (07/07/88)
I just got my copy of 6.0, and installed it last night. Upon restarting, I noticed that suitcase now refuses to open any new DAs or fonts. The buttons for opening and closing are unhighlighted. This problem occurs under regular and multi-finders and from within all applications I tried. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, what can be done? Fixes, patches, anyone? Thanks in advance. =Steve=
rterry@hpcupt1.HP.COM (Ray Terry) (07/08/88)
Re your problem with Suitcase and System 6.0. Yes, I, too, have that problem. The only way I could workaround it was by removing a couple of my DAs (not sure what I reduced the number down to, but I'm still using 50 or 75). After that it worked normally. FYI, some how a few of my DAs also got trashed. Not sure if Suitcase did that or not.?.?. rterry%hpda@hplabs.hp.com
kateley@Apple.COM (Jim Kateley) (07/08/88)
>[question about suitecase not working with system 6.0] What version of Suitecase are you using? I upgraded my 1.2.1 to 1.2.4 and have not had any problems with system 6.0. I pulled the articles below from the Delphi digests posted on comp.sys.mac.digests. Jim Kateley UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!kateley S,P,HnS! DOMAIN: kateley@apple.COM Applelink: kateley1 Disclaimer: What I say, think, or smell does not reflect any policy or stray thought by Apple Computer, Inc. ================================= Date: 31-MAY 20:07 Business Mac This is a revision of a previous message (which has been deleted). If you have already patched Suitcase 1.2.1 to update it to 1.2.3, ignore this message and see the next one instead. There are some bugs in Suitcase 1.2.1 that are fixed in Suitcase 1.3. Suitcase 1.3 will be offered as a free update to registered users by Fifth Generation Systems in June. Meanwhile, the following describes hexadecimal patches that may be applied to Suitcase 1.2.1 to fix these bugs. The patches also change the version number to 1.2.4 (not to be confused with 1.3, which, in addition to fixing the bugs, also has a performance improvement). Problems in 1.2.1 that are fixed in 1.2.4: --In some cases, startup may fail due to a problem with startup display of the Suitcase icon. --There can be a problem running some DAs that update certain types of their own resources (write them back to disk) under Suitcase if the DAs are subsequently run WITHOUT Suitcase. To date, the only DAs which are affected are Apple DAs (Control Panel, etc.) with System Tools 6.0. Hence this is not a problem for users running System Tools 5.0 or earlier. --Under rare circumstances, a DA suitcase file can be partially corrupted under MultiFinder. The typical symptom of corruption is that larger DAs in the file will not open when MultiFinder is off. The corruption is benign as long as MultiFinder is on. --Sometimes after opening or closing a DA suitcase file, one or more DAs in the Apple menu might be dimmed. The following patches may be applied to Suitcase 1.2.1 with Fedit Plus, MacTools, MacZap, SUM, or similar utility. Or, ResEdit may be used to alter the resources in Suitcase as indicated below. If you use ResEdit, make sure no desk accessory is open while you apply the patches; better yet, boot with Suitcase disabled before applying the patches (even if you aren't patching the copy of Suitcase in your System folder). Except as indicated for the second change, in each case the search pattern is unique within the file; the block/offset locations are provided for use with file patching facilities which cannot search for hexadecimal patterns. Search for: 51CA FFFA 3418 6006 08C4 001F E284 51CA FFF8 Change to: 08C4 001F 51CA FFF6 3418 6002 E284 51CA FFFC --in block 0, offset 470 (1D6 hex) bytes within block ResEdit: DRVR -16000 resource Search for: 322E 3120 Change to: 322E 3420 Make this change twice: --once in block 14 (E hex) at offset 490 (1EA hex) bytes within block ResEdit: dMob 0 resource --once in block 15 (F hex), offset 104 (68 hex) bytes within block ResEdit: PICT -16000 resource ResEdit: all of the following patches occur in the INIT 128 resource Search for: 5401 0200 0000 0000 0000 Change to: 5401 022E 9F4A 404E 7500 --in block 15 (F hex), offset 204 (CC hex) bytes within block Search for: FF2E 9F4E 7555 Change to: FF60 00F7 6C55 --in block 19 (13 hex), offset 352 (160 hex) bytes within block Search for: BA00 CE20 Change to: 71A9 9920 --in block 23 (17 hex), offset 402 (192 hex) bytes within block Search for: 780C Change to: 7C0C --in block 24 (18 hex), offset 38 bytes (26 hex) within block Search for: DF1E FE4E Change to: DF3E FE4E --in block 26 (1A hex), offset 32 (20 hex) bytes within block ------------------------------ >From: BRECHER Subject: Suitcase 1.2.3 -> 1.2.4 Date: 31-MAY 20:07 Business Mac If you have already patched Suitcase 1.2.1 to make it version 1.2.3, you can apply the following patches to make it version 1.2.4. This patch fixes a problem that can sometimes cause one or more DAs in the Apple menu to be dimmed after you open or close a DA suitcase file. Do not apply these patches directly to Suitcase 1.2.1. Apply these patches only to Suitcase 1.2.3. Patches to update Suitcase 1.2.1 to 1.2.3 were previously provided. If you have not made the previous patches, see the preceding message for patches to update 1.2.1 to 1.2.4. The following patches may be applied to Suitcase 1.2.3 with Fedit Plus, MacTools, MacZap, SUM, or similar utility. Or, ResEdit may be used to alter the resources in Suitcase as indicated below. If you use ResEdit, make sure no desk accessory is open while you apply the patches; better yet, boot with Suitcase disabled before applying the patches (even if you aren't patching the copy of Suitcase in your System folder). The block/offset locations are provided for use with file patching facilities which cannot search for hexadecimal patterns. Search for: 51CA FFFA 3418 6006 08C4 001F E284 51CA FFF8 Change to: 08C4 001F 51CA FFF6 3418 6002 E284 51CA FFFC --in block 0, offset 470 (1D6 hex) bytes within block ResEdit: DRVR -16000 resource Search for: 322E 3320 Change to: 322E 3420 Make this change twice: --once in block 14 (E hex) at offset 490 (1EA hex) bytes within block ResEdit: dMob 0 resource --once in block 15 (F hex), offset 104 (68 hex) bytes within block ResEdit: PICT -16000 resource ------------------------------ Jim Kateley UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!kateley S,P,HnS! DOMAIN: kateley@apple.COM Applelink: kateley1 Disclaimer: What I say, think, or smell does not reflect any policy or stray thought by Apple Computer, Inc.
Fabian_Fabe_Ramirez@cup.portal.com (07/08/88)
Steve, If you've just installed System 6.0, I'd make sure that you're using Suitcase 1.2.4 and that you've rebuilt your DA/Font suitcases. I've found from personal experience that some DAs get trashed and that they have to be replaced. One way to check is to use ResEdit and check the DRVR resources of your DAs and if you don't find the DRVR for all of your DAs, then those particular DAs have been trashed. Suitcase 1.2.4 will prevent this from happening in the future, but it won't correct any pre-existing corruption. It's a pain, but it works. Fabian Ramirez fabian_fabe_ramirez@cup.portal.com sun!cup.portal.com!fabian_fabe_ramirez
ge@hobbit.sci.kun.nl (Ge' Weijers) (07/08/88)
In article <10437@oberon.USC.EDU>, robiner@ganelon.usc.edu (Steve) writes: > I just got my copy of 6.0, and installed it last night. Upon > restarting, I noticed that suitcase now refuses to open any new > DAs or fonts. The buttons for opening and closing are unhighlighted. It also occurs under System 4.2 with the multifinder. It is probably not a bug. After switching off the multifinder everything works (at least under 4.2) -- Ge' Weijers, Informatics dept., Nijmegen University, the Netherlands UUCP: {uunet!,}mcvax!kunivv1!hobbit!ge
Mark_Peter_Cookson@cup.portal.com (07/09/88)
I would use Font DA Jugler. It works fine in MultiFinder, and System 6.0 and is actually BETTER than Suitcase. For example it will open a DA from anywhere on boot. Not just from a folder named DAs in the system folder. Mark Cookson
melnik@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ofer Melnik) (07/13/88)
Does anyone have a patch to convert suitcase 1.0 to the latest version?
(or even to 1.2x)
This is for my friend who does not have Net access.
Thanks in advance,
Ofer Melnik
--
Ofer Melnik Rutgers University
melnik@topaz.rutgers.educlive@drutx.ATT.COM (Clive Steward) (07/14/88)
From article <Jul.12.22.42.50.1988.16442@topaz.rutgers.edu>, by melnik@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ofer Melnik): > > Does anyone have a patch to convert suitcase 1.0 to the latest version? > (or even to 1.2x) > Here it is... careful, there are two messages, for two differnt cases... xPath: drutx!mtgzz!mtgzy!mtuxo!mtunx!rutgers!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!sdr.slb.COM!SHULMAN xFrom: BRECHER xNewsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest xSubject: Suitcase 1.2.4 xMessage-ID: <8806070158.AA16218@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> xDate: 31-MAY 20:07 Business Mac xSender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU xOrganization: The Internet xApproved: info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu xLines: 76 This is a revision of a previous message (which has been deleted). If you have already patched Suitcase 1.2.1 to update it to 1.2.3, ignore this message and see the next one instead. There are some bugs in Suitcase 1.2.1 that are fixed in Suitcase 1.3. Suitcase 1.3 will be offered as a free update to registered users by Fifth Generation Systems in June. Meanwhile, the following describes hexadecimal patches that may be applied to Suitcase 1.2.1 to fix these bugs. The patches also change the version number to 1.2.4 (not to be confused with 1.3, which, in addition to fixing the bugs, also has a performance improvement). Problems in 1.2.1 that are fixed in 1.2.4: --In some cases, startup may fail due to a problem with startup display of the Suitcase icon. --There can be a problem running some DAs that update certain types of their own resources (write them back to disk) under Suitcase if the DAs are subsequently run WITHOUT Suitcase. To date, the only DAs which are affected are Apple DAs (Control Panel, etc.) with System Tools 6.0. Hence this is not a problem for users running System Tools 5.0 or earlier. --Under rare circumstances, a DA suitcase file can be partially corrupted under MultiFinder. The typical symptom of corruption is that larger DAs in the file will not open when MultiFinder is off. The corruption is benign as long as MultiFinder is on. --Sometimes after opening or closing a DA suitcase file, one or more DAs in the Apple menu might be dimmed. The following patches may be applied to Suitcase 1.2.1 with Fedit Plus, MacTools, MacZap, SUM, or similar utility. Or, ResEdit may be used to alter the resources in Suitcase as indicated below. If you use ResEdit, make sure no desk accessory is open while you apply the patches; better yet, boot with Suitcase disabled before applying the patches (even if you aren't patching the copy of Suitcase in your System folder). Except as indicated for the second change, in each case the search pattern is unique within the file; the block/offset locations are provided for use with file patching facilities which cannot search for hexadecimal patterns. Search for: 51CA FFFA 3418 6006 08C4 001F E284 51CA FFF8 Change to: 08C4 001F 51CA FFF6 3418 6002 E284 51CA FFFC --in block 0, offset 470 (1D6 hex) bytes within block ResEdit: DRVR -16000 resource Search for: 322E 3120 Change to: 322E 3420 Make this change twice: --once in block 14 (E hex) at offset 490 (1EA hex) bytes within block ResEdit: dMob 0 resource --once in block 15 (F hex), offset 104 (68 hex) bytes within block ResEdit: PICT -16000 resource ResEdit: all of the following patches occur in the INIT 128 resource Search for: 5401 0200 0000 0000 0000 Change to: 5401 022E 9F4A 404E 7500 --in block 15 (F hex), offset 204 (CC hex) bytes within block Search for: FF2E 9F4E 7555 Change to: FF60 00F7 6C55 --in block 19 (13 hex), offset 352 (160 hex) bytes within block Search for: BA00 CE20 Change to: 71A9 9920 --in block 23 (17 hex), offset 402 (192 hex) bytes within block Search for: 780C Change to: 7C0C --in block 24 (18 hex), offset 38 bytes (26 hex) within block Search for: DF1E FE4E Change to: DF3E FE4E --in block 26 (1A hex), offset 32 (20 hex) bytes within block xPath: drutx!mtgzz!mtgzy!mtuxo!mtunx!rutgers!mit-eddie!ll-xn!ames!pasteur!ucbvax!sdr.slb.COM!SHULMAN xFrom: BRECHER xNewsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest xSubject: Suitcase 1.2.3 -> 1.2.4 xMessage-ID: <8806070158.AA16218@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> xDate: 31-MAY 20:07 Business Mac xSender: daemon@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU xOrganization: The Internet xApproved: info-mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu xLines: 34 If you have already patched Suitcase 1.2.1 to make it version 1.2.3, you can apply the following patches to make it version 1.2.4. This patch fixes a problem that can sometimes cause one or more DAs in the Apple menu to be dimmed after you open or close a DA suitcase file. Do not apply these patches directly to Suitcase 1.2.1. Apply these patches only to Suitcase 1.2.3. Patches to update Suitcase 1.2.1 to 1.2.3 were previously provided. If you have not made the previous patches, see the preceding message for patches to update 1.2.1 to 1.2.4. The following patches may be applied to Suitcase 1.2.3 with Fedit Plus, MacTools, MacZap, SUM, or similar utility. Or, ResEdit may be used to alter the resources in Suitcase as indicated below. If you use ResEdit, make sure no desk accessory is open while you apply the patches; better yet, boot with Suitcase disabled before applying the patches (even if you aren't patching the copy of Suitcase in your System folder). The block/offset locations are provided for use with file patching facilities which cannot search for hexadecimal patterns. Search for: 51CA FFFA 3418 6006 08C4 001F E284 51CA FFF8 Change to: 08C4 001F 51CA FFF6 3418 6002 E284 51CA FFFC --in block 0, offset 470 (1D6 hex) bytes within block ResEdit: DRVR -16000 resource Search for: 322E 3320 Change to: 322E 3420 Make this change twice: --once in block 14 (E hex) at offset 490 (1EA hex) bytes within block ResEdit: dMob 0 resource --once in block 15 (F hex), offset 104 (68 hex) bytes within block ResEdit: PICT -16000 resource
melnik@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ofer Melnik) (07/15/88)
In article <8257@drutx.ATT.COM> clive@drutx.ATT.COM (Clive Steward) writes: >From article <Jul.12.22.42.50.1988.16442@topaz.rutgers.edu>, by melnik@topaz.rutgers.edu (Ofer Melnik): >> >> Does anyone have a patch to convert suitcase 1.0 to the latest version? ^^^ >> (or even to 1.2x) >> >Fifth Generation Systems in June. Meanwhile, the following describes >hexadecimal patches that may be applied to Suitcase 1.2.1 to fix these ^^^^^ >bugs. The patches also change the version number to 1.2.4 (not to be Again, I ask: Anybody got a patch to convert suitcase 1.0 to 1.2.1 ??? -Ofer [----------------------------------------+----------------------------------] [Ofer Melnik -- Rutgers University ! "If its not in the computer, ] [ melnik@topaz.rutgers.edu ! it doesn't exist." ] [----------------------------------------+----------------------------------]
david_islander_hughes@cup.portal.com (08/03/88)
I recently brought back *paid for* copies of Juggler-plus, akong with 6.0 and Suitcase. **NEITHER** will work with 6.0 I don't even get the little "X" over the INIT logo on startup. I have to use 6.0 because I also use applefaxcx which requires that version any help is appreciated. Dave Hughes saipan, mariana Islands
isle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Ken Hancock) (08/04/88)
In article <7822@cup.portal.com> david_islander_hughes@cup.portal.com writes: > > I recently brought back *paid for* copies of Juggler-plus, akong >with 6.0 and Suitcase. **NEITHER** will work with 6.0 I don't even get >the little "X" over the INIT logo on startup. I have to use 6.0 because >I also use applefaxcx which requires that version >any help is appreciated. >Dave Hughes >saipan, mariana Islands Watch before you flame. I'm using Font/DA Juggler Plus with System 6.0 on a Mac Plus with -NO- problems whatsoever. I get the ShowIcon when it loads, and I get the X'ed ShowIcon when it doesn't. Ken Ken Hancock '90 | BITNET/UUCP: isle@eleazar.dartmouth.edu Personal Computing Ctr Consultant | -----------------------------------+---------------------------------------- DISCLAIMER? I don't get paid enough to worry about disclaimers.
earleh@eleazar.dartmouth.edu (Earle R. Horton) (08/05/88)
In article <7822@cup.portal.com> david_islander_hughes@cup.portal.com writes: > > I recently brought back *paid for* copies of Juggler-plus, akong >with 6.0 and Suitcase. **NEITHER** will work with 6.0 I don't even get >the little "X" over the INIT logo on startup. I have to use 6.0 because >I also use applefaxcx which requires that version >any help is appreciated. Suitcase 1.2.1 works flawlessly under System Tools 6.0, on my Plus and on my Mac II. I heard that there was a newer version, but perhaps I don't need it, according to David's posting. If you have a number of INITs, some/all of them may be incompatible. You can find this out by booting with a subset of the INITs you now have. Also, renaming INITs to change the order in which they are loaded sometimes helps. Mr. Spock! This disk is damaged! Do you want to initialize it? Earle R. Horton. H.B. 8000, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH 03755
kateley@Apple.COM (Jim Kateley) (08/06/88)
I used version 1.2.4 of Suitecase w/sys6.0 without any problems. I am currently
using version 1.3, and it seems to be working fine.
Jim Kateley UUCP: {sun, voder, nsc, mtxinu, dual}!apple!kateley
S,P,HnS! DOMAIN: kateley@apple.COM Applelink: kateley1
Disclaimer: What I say, think, or smell does not reflect any policy or
stray thought by Apple Computer, Inc.