ajq@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (08/04/88)
Question: Is Edit 2.0 by Consulair and Apple a program that's distributable in the public domain? Or is it commercial or part of a commercial package? The program is a simple text editor that does its job well. I need to know if it's legal to make copies of it and use it. Or better, I need to know if it can be purchased, presuming it's not PD. John O'Malley \ Personal Computing \ Purdue University \ (317) mace.cc.purdue.edu!ajq \ Learning Resource Center \ Computing Center \ 494-9944
jordan@Apple.COM (Jordan Mattson) (08/05/88)
The simple one word answer is: no. Edit 2.0, and by the way the latest version is 2.1, is a copy righted Apple product. It is not free to redistribute, though you can license it for redistribution.
alex@rata.vuw.ac.nz (Alex Heatley) (08/05/88)
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I asked this question about three months ago. I received a resounding silence.
I, also would be interested in the answer.
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In article <15160@apple.Apple.COM> jordan@apple.apple.com.UUCP (Jordan Mattson) writes: > > The simple one word answer is: no. Edit 2.0, and by the way the latest >version is 2.1, is a copy righted Apple product. It is not free to >redistribute, though you can license it for redistribution. So where does one obtain Edit 2.1? (I am still using 2.0d1.) Kanthan. -- Do I really need a signature?
drc@claris.UUCP (Dennis Cohen) (08/05/88)
In article <15160@apple.Apple.COM> jordan@apple.apple.com.UUCP (Jordan Mattson) writes: > > The simple one word answer is: no. Edit 2.0, and by the way the latest >version is 2.1, is a copy righted Apple product. It is not free to >redistribute, though you can license it for redistribution. Excuse me, Jordan, but wasn't Edit part of the package the rights of which were reverted to Consulair Corp. (Bill Duvall, et al)? I agree that it is not PD or freely distributable, but I don't think that it is an Apple product any longer and after checking the signature resources, it looks like the copyright has been W.S. Duvall, Consulair Corp. at least through the version 2.x stuff. Dennis Cohen Claris Corp. ------------ Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed above are _MINE_! belongs to Apple
ech@poseidon.UUCP (Edward C Horvath) (08/06/88)
> Question: Is Edit 2.0 by Consulair and Apple a program that's distributable > in the public domain? Or is it commercial or part of a commercial package? The current version is 2.1, and it is NOT in the public domain. Apple was selling distribution licenses for some pittance; I don't know if Consulair is still offering the licenses now that the Mac 68K Development System (MDS) has been ceded back to them. =Ned=
jordan@Apple.COM (Jordan Mattson) (08/07/88)
Edit 2.1 is available for licensing from Apple Software Licensing, or ina single copy package from APDA as part of the MDS 2.0 Update Package. I also believe that it was sent to a number of the online services, such as Genie, Compuserve, and Delphi. Jordan Mattson UUCP: ucbvax!mtxinu!apple!jordan Apple Computer, Inc. CSNET: jordan@apple.CSNET Tools & Languages Product Management 20525 Mariani Avenue, MS 27S Cupertino, CA 95014 408-973-4601 "Joy is the serious business of heaven." C.S. Lewis
jordan@Apple.COM (Jordan Mattson) (08/07/88)
Dear Dennis - Apple returned marketting rights to MDS to Bill and Consulair, but retained rights to Edit and other parts of the old MDS package (MacDB is an example). The contract is long and involved, and it would not be proper to discuss it here on the net, but the bottom line is that Apple has rights to Edit 2.0/2.1 and it cannot be freely redistributed as public domain software. Jordan Mattson UUCP: ucbvax!mtxinu!apple!jordan Apple Computer, Inc. CSNET: jordan@apple.CSNET Tools & Languages Product Management 20525 Mariani Avenue, MS 27S Cupertino, CA 95014 408-973-4601 "Joy is the serious business of heaven." C.S. Lewis
ajq@mace.cc.purdue.edu (John O'Malley) (08/08/88)
In article <14038@comp.vuw.ac.nz> alex@rata.vuw.ac.nz (Alex Heatley) writes: >In article <> ajq@mace.cc.purdue.edu (I) write: > > > >Question: Is Edit 2.0 by Consulair and Apple a program that's distributable > >in the public domain? Or is it commercial or part of a commercial package? > > > >The program is a simple text editor that does its job well. I need to know > >if it's legal to make copies of it and use it. Or better, I need to know > >if it can be purchased, presuming it's not PD. > >I asked this question about three months ago. I received a resounding silence. >I, also would be interested in the answer. >Alex Heatley >Domain: alex@rata.vuw.ac.nz I received mail from a couple of people, including someone from Apple, who both said that Edit 2.1 (the newer version) is definitely NOT public domain or distributable. That presented me with a problem: find another text editor that is about as easy to use as Edit is, about the level of power that Edit is... this actually isn't all that easy a task! So I called Consulair, and they offered to sell Edit to me (or rather, my collegue who's thinking about using it on 20 Macs) as a stand-alone product rather than part of the Consulair Development package, which is what it normally comes in. So, ifya want to use Edit but you don't own their development system, give 'em a call! They seem willing to make deals. John O'Malley \ Personal Computing \ Purdue University \ (317) mace.cc.purdue.edu!ajq \ Learning Resource Center \ Computing Center \ 494-9944
captkidd@athena.mit.edu (Ivan M Cavero) (08/18/88)
There's been a lot going on here about copying Edit 2.0 and stuff, which is owned by Consulair. Now, if you are going to go to Consulair and buy Edit from them, I'd say you have a better choice, especially for pgm develop- ment: there's an editor put out by Paragon Concepts called QUED/M that can do major stuff. QUED, the original version had features such as autosave on every xxxth keypress, save to two files (auto backup), multiple file editing up to end of memory, auto tiling (even zoom before apple put a zoom box in its windows). The new version has macros, unlimited depth undo, sorting, search unopened files, definable command keys, etc. The damn thing is GOOD. If you are going to spend money for an editor instead of grabbing a PD one, take a look at this one. -Ivan