[comp.sys.mac] using a mac2 with 2 monitors

mem@potomac.ads.com (Mark E. Moessinger) (08/09/88)

I have been told that there is a problem hooking up 2 monitors
to the MAC2. Does anyone know the status of this problem. When
it will be fixed etc....

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TechServices@cup.portal.com (08/11/88)

Mark Moessinger asks

"I have been told that there is a problem hooking up 2 monitors
to the MAC2. Does anyone know the status of this problem. When
it will be fixed etc...."

I have a Mac II with the Spectrum card from SuperMac as well as the
8bit Apple video card and I run and AppleColor RGB as well as the
SuperMac (Sony Trinitron) 19".  I have always been able to move windows
back and forth without any problem.  This setup is used extensively with
NEXPERT since it opens a large number of windows during operation.

Angelo Micheletti
Manager of Technical Services
Bechtel AI Institute

bldflame@pnet06.cts.com (Stuart Burden) (08/12/88)

mem@potomac.ads.com (Mark E. Moessinger) writes:
>I have been told that there is a problem hooking up 2 monitors
>to the MAC2. Does anyone know the status of this problem. When
>it will be fixed etc....
>					Mark M.

I've been using a two monitor Mac ][ setup for close to a year now.  Appart
from the occasional application not supporting two monitors, it has worked
fine.

I know of no problem with this arrangment at all.

Stu.

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nicky@cup.portal.com (08/14/88)

I remember reading (MacWorld article?) about the Mac II having problems
with 6 screens.  The writer of the article could only get 5 to work
correctly.

Nick Pilch
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julian@riacs.edu (Julian E Gomez) (08/19/88)

In article <8089@cup.portal.com> nicky@cup.portal.com writes:
" I remember reading (MacWorld article?) about the Mac II having problems
" with 6 screens.  The writer of the article could only get 5 to work
" correctly.

Now pay attention! You may find yourself in the same situation.

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bcase@cup.portal.com (08/20/88)

I just got a second monitor for my Mac II and noticed one funny thing:  some
windows get thrown up on the monitor connected to the video card that is
plugged into the lowest numbered slot *regardless* of which card is set to
have the menu bar.  The mouse pointer also starts out on that monitor immed.
after start up (I had that monitor turned off once and couldn't find the
mouse pointer to save my life!  Then I realized what must be going on.).
So, it pays to have the menu screen be the one connected to the "earliest"
video card.  Otherwise, the addition of a second monitor is about as seamless
as it could be.  Try that with a PC!

lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) (08/21/88)

In article <8296@cup.portal.com> bcase@cup.portal.com writes:

>plugged into the lowest numbered slot *regardless* of which card is set to
>have the menu bar.  The mouse pointer also starts out on that monitor immed.
>after start up (I had that monitor turned off once and couldn't find the

You may be able to change this.  If you hold down the option key while
selecting Monitors in teh Control Panel, you will get a little face on the
startup monitor.  (This is the one that displays the Welcome to Macintosh at
boot time.)  You can drag this over to another screen if you wish.

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bcase@cup.portal.com (08/22/88)

Hmmm, I held down the option key while clicking on monitors in the control
panel, but no little face appeared (although something seemed to be going
on).

Other problems with using two (or more) monitors:

1) FullWrite will spill the spelling and thesaurus (spelled correctly?)
windows onto the next screen if the current window spans the entire height
of the current screen!  Since my second (smaller) monitor is now almost
always off, I kept wondering where the damn spell dialog was!!

2) Two monitors right next to each other may interfere based on the
relationship between their vertical scan rates.  E.g., I have an apple
13" color and a supermac 16" color; with both on, the supermac raster
shimmers (but the apple doesn't!!); the supermac by itself is quite
stable.

sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) (08/24/88)

In article <15876@apple.Apple.COM> lsr@apple.com.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) writes:
>You may be able to change this.  If you hold down the option key while
>selecting Monitors in teh Control Panel, you will get a little face on the
>startup monitor.  (This is the one that displays the Welcome to Macintosh at
>boot time.)  You can drag this over to another screen if you wish.

Boy, I wish developers would stop all this option/command/tab/caps-lock
nonsense.  The standard Apple interface seems to be becoming more and
more like Microsoft Word every day.

I could sort of understand the rationale behind command-option for
rebuilding the desktop file, and command-option-shift-caps-lock (or
whatever) for zapping PRAM, since these aren't things that the average
user is going to be doing very often.  But what would be wrong with
having an icon or button in the Monitors CDEV that does what the secret
option key does?  Now only technical users will be able to change the
default monitor, since they're the only ones who read this newsgroup
(or, more generally, they're the only ones who read manuals).

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dgold@Apple.COM (David Goldsmith) (08/25/88)

In article <574@esquire.UUCP> sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes:
>In article <15876@apple.Apple.COM> lsr@apple.com.UUCP (Larry Rosenstein) writes:
>>You may be able to change this.  If you hold down the option key while
>>selecting Monitors in teh Control Panel, you will get a little face on the
>>startup monitor.  (This is the one that displays the Welcome to Macintosh at
>>boot time.)  You can drag this over to another screen if you wish.
>
>Boy, I wish developers would stop all this option/command/tab/caps-lock
>nonsense.  The standard Apple interface seems to be becoming more and
>more like Microsoft Word every day.
>
>I could sort of understand the rationale behind command-option for
>rebuilding the desktop file, and command-option-shift-caps-lock (or
>whatever) for zapping PRAM, since these aren't things that the average
>user is going to be doing very often.  But what would be wrong with
>having an icon or button in the Monitors CDEV that does what the secret
>option key does?  Now only technical users will be able to change the
>default monitor, since they're the only ones who read this newsgroup
>(or, more generally, they're the only ones who read manuals).

It was intentionally hidden to simplify the user interface of the
Monitors CDEV.  The only thing this feature controls is which screen is
first in the gdevice list; no application should depend on or make use
of this information.  Properly written applications should work with any
number of monitors, with the menu bar on any monitor.  Any other behavior is
a bug.

That said, you may wonder why the feature exists at all.  It's for Macsbug;
Macsbug always comes up on the first screen in the gdevice list.  Since
this feature was only useful to people using Macsbug, it was hidden away
with a special keystroke so as not to clutter the interface for non-
technical users.

By the way, I heartily agree with the sentiment about option-control-command-
double-bucky-quackeroo; I would like to see some of those combinations in
the Finder replaced by something more accessible.  In this case, however,
I think the decision to hide this feature was correct.

(PS- it's not even in the manual, as far as I know)
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