[comp.sys.mac] Terminal Program help?

gleicher@b.gp.cs.cmu.edu (Michael Gleicher) (08/27/88)

I am looking for a new terminal program for my Mac II. Right now I am
using Kermit, but am looking for something better, or something that
I can get C source to so that I can make it do what I want.

I'd like a program that:
	Doesn't cost much (instead of buying something like VersaTerm
		pro, I could just buy a used terminal)
	Emulate a Concept-100 (this isn't too critical, a vt100 would be
		enough)
	Lets me use large characters (12 or 14 points) so 80*25 fills my
		Mac II monitor
	Does XMODEM transfers (preferably 1K blocks or fast-track)

Recently a vt100 emulator was posted on comp.binaries.mac, but it doesn't
seem to run on my machine, I get funny symbols where there should be
letters (any ideas why its font isn't working?)

I'd appreciate any ideas or suggestions or code. (Source code to a sample
terminal program in C would be super).

Thanks,

	Mike Gleicher
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drew@cup.portal.com (08/28/88)

At the moment I'm using and like very much Red Ryder, by Scott Watson,
10828 Lacklink, St. Louis, Mo. 63114 (314)423-2190 "shareware".  Very
good VT100 emulator, very nice Mac interface.  He will probably also
send you MockWrite, which is useful, too.  Nice procedures, xmodem, etc.
Source?  I don't know; ask him.

	Doesn't cost much (instead of buying something like VersaTerm
		pro, I could just buy a used terminal)
Big win here.  Much better than terminal since intergrated with Mac.

	Emulate a Concept-100 (this isn't too critical, a vt100 would be
		enough)
Well, you got VT100.

	Lets me use large characters (12 or 14 points) so 80*25 fills my
		Mac II monitor
Don't know.  Does have different screen sizes.

	Does XMODEM transfers (preferably 1K blocks or fast-track)
Xmodem, yes.  1K, unfortunately, no, as far as I can tell.

leonardr@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (08/29/88)

gleicher@b.gp.cs.cmu.edu(Mike Gleicher) in comp.sys.mac

>I am looking for a new terminal program for my Mac II. Right now I am
>using Kermit, but am looking for something better, or something that
>I can get C source to so that I can make it do what I want.
>
>I'd like a program that:
>	Doesn't cost much (instead of buying something like VersaTerm
>		pro, I could just buy a used terminal)
>	Emulate a Concept-100 (this isn't too critical, a vt100 would be
>		enough)
>	Lets me use large characters (12 or 14 points) so 80*25 fills my
>		Mac II monitor
>	Does XMODEM transfers (preferably 1K blocks or fast-track)
>
	How about Freeterm?  It is (obviously) a free communications program for
the Mac.  It works just fine on a Mac II, emulates VT100, supports 12pt chars,
and does both 1K and 'fast-track' XMODEM. Can't beat that, all that you ask
for and at no cost.  I just got the latest version from GEnie, but there are
older versions on SUMEX if you want to check them out first.

>Recently a vt100 emulator was posted on comp.binaries.mac, but it doesn't
>seem to run on my machine, I get funny symbols where there should be
>letters (any ideas why its font isn't working?)
>
	The programmer has publicaly said that his program (assuming you are 
referring to VT100Maculator) does not work on the Mac II.

>I'd appreciate any ideas or suggestions or code. (Source code to a sample
>terminal program in C would be super).
>
>Thanks,
	You are more than welcome.


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Mark_Peter_Cookson@cup.portal.com (08/29/88)

Red Ryder 10.3 will do 1K XMODEM transfers.  There is an option in the XMODEM
and Kermit Prefrences... menu, right down at the bottom of the list, use and
reconize 1K blocks.

Mark Cookson

ech@poseidon.UUCP (Edward C Horvath) (08/29/88)

> I'd like a program that:
> 	Doesn't cost much (instead of buying something like VersaTerm
> 		pro, I could just buy a used terminal)
> 	Emulate a Concept-100 (this isn't too critical, a vt100 would be
> 		enough)
> 	Lets me use large characters (12 or 14 points) so 80*25 fills my
> 		Mac II monitor
> 	Does XMODEM transfers (preferably 1K blocks or fast-track)

VersaTerm 3.20 (not PRO) lists for $99, mailorder more like $79, and does
everything you've enumerated.  I run happily on a Mac II with it.

No source, so you can't hack it up.  But an excellent, easy-to-use but
feature-filled product, very well supported, at a good price.

=Ned Horvath=

peter@aucs.UUCP (Peter Steele) (08/29/88)

>>I am looking for a new terminal program for my Mac II. Right now I am
>>using Kermit, but am looking for something better, or something that
>>I can get C source to so that I can make it do what I want.

You should try VersaTerm, not the Pro version, just VersaTerm. I've seen
it listed for as little as $69. It has fast throughput, the closest of any
I've seen to come to 9600 baud. You can adjust font size up 12 point and
adjust window size vertically to fill the screen, width can be either
80 or 132. I'm running it right now one a Mac II with a FPD using a
screen of 60 rows x 80 columns (I had to create a special termcap
called VTMAC on our SUN so VI would run properly). I've used it for some
time now and I like it a lot.

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