mha@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Mark H. Anbinder) (09/15/88)
Why is Macintalk no longer working? To be fair, I haven't tried it on an older computer with the new system software, but I know it doesn't work on a Mac II with the new system software (5.0, not 6.0x). If I shouldn't expect Macintalk to ever work again, a replacement would be nice. It's a very useful tool. -- Mark H. Anbinder ** MHA@TCGould.tn.cornell.edu NG33 MVR Hall, Media Services Dept. ********************* *** * * Cornell University H: (607) 257-7587 ** THCY@CRNLVAX5 **** * * * Ithaca, NY 14853 W: (607) 255-1566 ********************* *** ***
pkahn@meridian.ads.com (Phil Kahn) (09/15/88)
In article <6317@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> mha@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Mark H. Anbinder) writes: >Why is Macintalk no longer working? To be fair, I haven't tried it on an >older computer with the new system software, but I know it doesn't work on >a Mac II with the new system software (5.0, not 6.0x). If I shouldn't >expect Macintalk to ever work again, a replacement would be nice. It's >a very useful tool. Mmmm. I use MacinTalk on my MacII at home and work (both running 5.0 with 1MB and 5MB configurations). Perhaps the problem is with an init you have loaded? Or perhaps you haven't placed the Macintalk driver in your System Folder? phil...
hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Josh Hodas) (09/16/88)
In article <5444@zodiac.UUCP> pkahn@meridian.UUCP (Phil Kahn) writes: >In article <6317@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> mha@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Mark H. Anbinder) writes: >>Why is Macintalk no longer working? To be fair, I haven't tried it on an >>older computer with the new system software, but I know it doesn't work on >>a Mac II with the new system software (5.0, not 6.0x). If I shouldn't >>expect Macintalk to ever work again, a replacement would be nice. It's >>a very useful tool. > >Mmmm. I use MacinTalk on my MacII at home and work (both running 5.0 >with 1MB and 5MB configurations). Perhaps the problem is with an init >you have loaded? Or perhaps you haven't placed the Macintalk driver >in your System Folder? > >phil... Or perhaps (more likely) you are using too old a version of MacinTalk. Patches were needed to get it to work on the II. I do not know the current version number (as I patched rather than getting a new one). If you cannot find the current version write and I will e-mail it. On second thought is this Legal? Josh ------------------------- Josh Hodas (hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu) 4223 Pine Street Philadelphia, PA 19104 (215) 222-7112 (home) (215) 898-9515 (school office)
chari@juniper.uucp (Christopher Michael Whatley) (09/17/88)
In article <6317@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> mha@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu (Mark H. Anbinder) writes: >Why is Macintalk no longer working? To be fair, I haven't tried it on an >older computer with the new system software, but I know it doesn't work on >a Mac II with the new system software (5.0, not 6.0x). If I shouldn't >expect Macintalk to ever work again, a replacement would be nice. It's >a very useful tool. Well, Macintalk works fine for me on my Mac II with System 6.0. You should check your version number because shortly after the Mac II and SE came out a newer version was created. I believe it is version 1.3 that works. If anyone wants it, I can mail it to you. Chris
pollock@usfvax2.EDU (Wayne Pollock) (09/21/88)
Macintalk doesn't work correctly on a Mac II with v5.0 software. It
almost does, but after a while it screws up the machine forcing a reboot.
(Boy, do I miss talking moose :-)
Wayne Pollock (The MAD Scientist) pollock@usfvax2.usf.edu
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GEnie: W.POLLOCKchari@juniper.uucp (Christopher Michael Whatley) (09/21/88)
Expires: References: <6317@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu> <5444@zodiac.UUCP> <1129@usfvax2.EDU> Sender: Reply-To: chari@juniper.UUCP (Christopher Michael Whatley) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Austin UNIX Users' Group, Austin, TX Keywords: Macintalk Please everybody, stop sending requests for a copy of macintalk! If you can't find it anywhere else or something, I will send it to you. Otherwise, don't ask. Try an FTP first. Thanks, Chris ------ -- $---------------$--------------------------------$-------------------------$ | Chris Whatley | mail chari@juniper.uucp | "Ever seen the chicken | | 512/453-4238 | chari@killer.dallas.tx.us | walk?" -Jeffrey | $---------------$--------------------------------$-------------------------$
anson@spray.CalComp.COM (Ed Anson) (09/21/88)
In article <1129@usfvax2.EDU> pollock@usfvax2.usf.edu.UUCP (Wayne Pollock) writes: >Macintalk doesn't work correctly on a Mac II with v5.0 software. So far, I've seen a lot of debate about whether Macintalk still works. But it never did work particularly well...unless you happen to like stuff that sounds like that. The only application I ever found that benefitted from it was a kids' game called MacRobots. My question is: Has anyone found a speech synthesizer for the Mac that sounds like real speech? Or is someone working on one? -- ===================================================================== Ed Anson, Calcomp Display Products Division, Hudson NH 03051 (603) 885-8712, anson@elrond.CalComp.COM
mha@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Mark H. Anbinder) (09/24/88)
In article <2435@spray.CalComp.COM> anson@spray.UUCP (Ed Anson) writes: >So far, I've seen a lot of debate about whether Macintalk still works. But >it never did work particularly well... >Has anyone found a speech synthesizer for the Mac that sounds like real speech? >Or is someone working on one? I asked the original question about why my copies of Macintalk weren't working on my Mac II. According to most of the responses, I've just been using an old version, though there's some question as to whether the latest version is compatible with various recent incarnations of the system software. In any case, I always felt that Smoothtalker, which stopped working for me when I upgraded my first Mac from 512K to Plus, had a more natural-sounding speech algorithm than Macintalk did. Which of course wasn't saying much. Now that we've got the Mac II, with its high processing speed and powerful sound generation capabilities, someone SHOULD be working on REALLY natural sounding speech. Utilizing segments of digitized human speech could be appropriate here. Or just studying them and implementing a generator based on them would be fine. As a linguist (by education if not career) myself, I understand the inherent difficulties in producing natural-sounding speech. It won't be easy. I wish I were a better Macintosh programmer and had a couple of extra hours a day; then maybe I'd tackle it. For now, I'm waiting patiently for someone else to get around to it. Seems to me that Apple should be taking steps to bring Macintalk up to date. Adding a female voice at this point would be a good idea! Smoothtalker had menu options for a female voice and several different accents, none of which were ever (to my knowledge) actually implemented. Any comers? -- Mark H. Anbinder ** MHA@TCGould.tn.cornell.edu NG33 MVR Hall, Media Services Dept. ** THCY@CRNLVAX5.BITNET Cornell University H: (607) 257-7587 ******** Ithaca, NY 14853 W: (607) 255-1566 ******* Ego ipse custodies custudio