[comp.sys.mac] Invisible Folders

dgc@CS.UCLA.EDU (12/24/86)

I have an invisible folder containing an empty invisible folder on my
desktop on my hard disk..  They were created by a #!$$%@! copy-protected
program.  Short of reformatting my hard disk, how do I remove them?  Any
program I use treats them as folders and simply opens them, as folders,
when I select one of them for deletion, making visible, etc.

dgc
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dgc@CS.UCLA.EDU (12/25/86)

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I received the suggestion to use ResEdit for removing invisible folders. 
I tried it as suggested and I encountered the same problem I had with
several other utility programs.  When you tell these programs to select
a folder, these programs simply open it.  They won't refer to a folder
as a file.

I have a folder called "Airborne!" on the desktop of my hard disk and
this folder contains a folder called "Airborne Folder" (thanks to Bill
Gates for the obnoxious protection scheme which led to this problem!). 
The latter is an empty folder.  The finder doesn't see either of them,
but other programs do (when I do an "open", they appear in the list of
folders that can be opened).  So I am able to work with (or create) a
file within the inner of the two folders (of course there aren't any),
but I can't refer to the folders themselves.  Any attempt to refer to
them moves me within them.

I guess I will have to reformat my hard disk (sigh)!

dgc

David G. Cantor
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ss@wanginst.EDU (Sid Shapiro) (12/29/86)

In article <3516@curly.ucla-cs.UCLA.EDU> dgc@CS.UCLA.EDU (David G Cantor) writes:
>I received the suggestion to use ResEdit for removing invisible folders. 
>I tried it as suggested and I encountered the same problem I had with
>several other utility programs.  When you tell these programs to select
>a folder, these programs simply open it.  They won't refer to a folder
>as a file.
No, No, No.  Don't open it, just click once on it to highlight it,
then do a get info (either from the Edit menu or command-I).  I just
did it with ResEdit 1.0D7 - works like a charm.
/ Sid /

rwi@naucse.UUCP (Robert Wier) (10/02/88)

  Can anyone tell me about a funny thing I've had turn up on my 
  Mac Plus lately.  I have an invisible folder named "Applications
  1".  Now it used to be visible, but at this time, neither the 
  Finder nor Find File seem to be able to see it.  However, when
  I use "Disktop", it is listed as if it were a regular folder, and
  I can move it around inside other folders as if it were normal. 

  According to MacSnoop, it has the same attributes "0010 16"
  as normal folders.  What is making it invisible?  Actually,
  if I can reproduce this condition, I have a use for it here
  in some classroom programming.  Can anyone explain what is happening
  here, or point me to the correct reference in Inside Macintosh?

  thanks...



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rwi@naucse.UUCP (Robert Wier) (10/03/88)

 In my previous posting, I had described a situation wherein I had
 an Invisible Folder on my Mac, which neither Finder nor Find File
 could see.  Several suggested I use resedit to look at the folder
 attributed under "Get Info", and sure enough, the invisible bit was
 set.  I reset it and quit resedit, and there it was on the desktop.
 I didn't know you could do that!  Well, learn something new every
 day...

 thanks to all -- Bob Wier in Flagstaff, Az.  ...arizona!naucse!rwi

6uldv8@Apple.COM (almost awake) (10/03/88)

In article <946@naucse.UUCP> rwi@naucse.UUCP (Robert Wier) writes:
> an Invisible Folder on my Mac, which neither Finder nor Find File
> could see.  Several suggested I use resedit to look at the folder
> attributed under "Get Info", and sure enough, the invisible bit was
> set.  I reset it and quit resedit, and there it was on the desktop.

Bob, 
Instead of Using ResEdit (which will work, but is kinda overkill)
Just make sure that your preferances for DiskTop are set to "Technical"
then, select the FOLDER or FILE you want to change/view the status of
and select "Get Info" (cmd-I). The attributions of the selected item
including Invisible status will be there and can be changed there.

another interesting use of this is making folders invisible on
AppleShare servers!    I maintain several and it's a good way
to control access. Have fun, but BE POLITE with your new power!

later..............:-))


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gillies@p.cs.uiuc.edu (10/03/88)

Each file in the O/S has about half a dozen special bits that can be
set to make it behave in unique ways.  There are invisible, locked,
read-only, ... and many more.  You can inspect and change these bits
in ResEdit.  Select a file or folder, and then go the menues and click
on "File Info" or something like that.

Here at the U of I, lab machines are set up with the important files &
directories LOCKED and/or INVISIBLE.  Thus, most students cannot
damage the hard disk configuration.  This is extremely useful.


Don Gillies, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Illinois
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