ejf@well.UUCP (Erik James Freed) (09/27/88)
I am sure that this is an old topic but due to my only recent interest in this I am looking to find out what TCP-IP libraries are available that run on Pcs and Macs. I would be very appreciative of some pointers to where to find out more... Thanks in advance. Erik Freed UUCP:well!ejf (415) 461-5400
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (09/29/88)
In article <7219@well.UUCP> ejf@well.UUCP (Erik James Freed) writes: > > I am sure that this is an old topic but due to my only recent interest >in this I am looking to find out what TCP-IP libraries are available that >run on Pcs and Macs. I would be very appreciative of some pointers to >where to find out more... Thanks in advance. > > Erik Freed > UUCP:well!ejf > (415) 461-5400 Sun/TOPS has got both. I wrote "TOPS TCP/IP" for the Macintosh last year, and it should theoretically be available through the TOPS Developer Program. Brent Noorda did some TCP/IP work on the PC as well, but I don't think it's been broken out of his terminal program for others to use. Sun used another PC TCP/IP for their earlier client-only MS-DOS version of NFS; I don't know about its availability. Apple has announced they will have a TCP/IP, as reported in a recent MacWeek. It was developed by the University of Michigan, primarily. -- Tim Maroney, Consultant, Eclectic Software, sun!hoptoad!tim "The time is gone, the song is over. Thought I'd something more to say." - Roger Waters, Time
verber@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark A. Verber) (09/30/88)
Apple is showing their new TCP/IP drivers at inter/op. They are not the U of Mich drivers. They were written inside Apple. They look pretty good and use some of the ideas that Jacobson (sic) of Berkeley? did to BSD TCP/IP. Cheers, Mark
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (10/01/88)
In article <23036@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> verber@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark A. Verber) writes: >Apple is showing their new TCP/IP drivers at inter/op. They are not >the U of Mich drivers. They were written inside Apple. According to a source at Apple who was kind enough to write me, the Apple TCP/IP implementation was done by Ungermann-Bass. My UofMich speculation was based on what Martin Haeberli told me in 1987, which seemed to be corroborated by recent trade press reports. I know, it was stupid to believe the trade press, sorry.... -- Tim Maroney, Consultant, Eclectic Software, sun!hoptoad!tim "Strong men tremble when they hear it. They've got cause enough to fear it; It's even blacker than they smear it! No one mentions -- my name." - Bill Sykes, "Oliver"
sob@watson.bcm.tmc.edu (Stan Barber) (10/01/88)
In article <5475@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) writes: > >Apple has announced they will have a TCP/IP, as reported in a recent MacWeek. >It was developed by the University of Michigan, primarily. >-- Apple announced MacTCP this week at Interop 88. It is supposedly based on the NCSA kernel and not the UMich stuff (or something link that). It is NOT an end-user package but for developers only. Stanford-IP has been modified to fit as has NCSA Telnet. UB has the first product out on it. Kinetics has also release a similiar product called TCPport. TOPS has not released anything like this, period. Do you know if TOPS will, Tim? Stan internet: sob@bcm.tmc.edu Baylor College of Medicine Olan uucp: {rice,killer,hoptoad}!academ!sob Barber Opinions expressed are only mine.
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (10/04/88)
In article <1300@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> sob@watson.bcm.tmc.edu (Stan Barber) writes: >Apple announced MacTCP this week at Interop 88. It is supposedly based >on the NCSA kernel and not the UMich stuff (or something link that). That makes four attributions of the source so far: UofM, Apple, NCSA, and Ungermann-Bass. My money is now riding on the last one. But who knows? >It is NOT an end-user package but for developers only. Stanford-IP has been >modified to fit as has NCSA Telnet. UB has the first product out on it. How nice. In their usual TOPS-bashing, Apple didn't bother to make us aware of it when I was there. I always get a kick out of it when Apple talks about their wonderful support of third-party developers. >Kinetics has also release a similiar product called TCPport. TOPS has not >released anything like this, period. >Do you know if TOPS will, Tim? Probably not; the TOPS developer program is a joke. I have two fine pieces of software, InterBase and TOPS TCP/IP, which would be perfect for it, but no one has ever licensed them because the marketing boys at TOPS don't think beta testing or the developer program are worth a full-time employee. Grumble grr hiss boo. But TOPS TCP/IP stabilized last year, and had the last known bug removed in the spring; it ought to be available now. Maybe you could get it if you asked. What was that I said earlier about not wanting to appear mean-spirited toward my former employer? Oh well.... -- Tim Maroney, Consultant, Eclectic Software, sun!hoptoad!tim "Now hear a plain fact: Swedenborg has not written one new truth: Now hear another: he has written all the old falshoods. And now hear the reason. He conversed with Angels who are all religious, & conversed not with Devils who all hate religion, for he was incapable thro' his conceited notions." - Blake, "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell"