paulm@nikhefk.UUCP (Paul Molenaar) (09/20/88)
A recent usenet posting stated that IBM payed $10 million for the use
of the user interface developed by NeXt.
It aroused a lot of curiosity at my end. For what machines does IBM
need this user interface? It has the Presentation Manager for OS/2? Right?
What's so special about this interface? Any1 any information on this
subject?
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Paul Molenaar
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- Basil Fawlty -greggy@infmx.UUCP (greg yachuk) (09/22/88)
In article <417@nikhefk.UUCP> paulm@nikhefk.UUCP (Paul Molenaar) writes: >A recent usenet posting stated that IBM payed $10 million for the use >of the user interface developed by NeXt. >It aroused a lot of curiosity at my end. For what machines does IBM >need this user interface? According to an article in the San Francisco Chronicle (comical?), the NeXT interface is to be used on the PC/RT. Greg Yachuk Informix Software Inc., Menlo Park, CA (415) 322-4100 {uunet,pyramid}!infmx!greggy why yes, I DID choose that login myself
felix@AI.SRI.COM (Francois Felix INGRAND) (09/22/88)
In article <417@nikhefk.UUCP>, paulm@nikhefk (Paul Molenaar) writes: >A recent usenet posting stated that IBM payed $10 million for the use >of the user interface developed by NeXt. > >It aroused a lot of curiosity at my end. For what machines does IBM >need this user interface? It has the Presentation Manager for OS/2? Right? >What's so special about this interface? Any1 any information on this >subject? The information about this deal was coming from the NY Times of Monday 9/12. For the answer to your questions, I guess the best is now to wait the 12th of October... It is now official, I have even some lucky friends who gets their Invitation to the show (SF Davies Hall). For IBM... They want to be able to use the "Look and Feel" of the NeXT machine without troubles. The thing I thought was interesting in this deal is that if you look at the Stock of the company, it is something like: (NYT) (spelling of name is approximative) Jobs 7 Millions $ Stanford 1.5 Millions $ CMU 1.5 Millions $ Ross Pero 30 Millions $ So it is a big chunk of money IBM is "giving" them... Ohhh, BTW, who is going to distribute the machine... IBM might give them some help, who knows? PS: is there a com.sys.next group? is it time to request it now that the machine is really coming? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Francois Felix INGRAND SRI International, AIC 333, Ravenswood Avenue felix@AI.SRI.COM MENLO PARK, CA 94025
palmer@tybalt.caltech.edu (David Palmer) (09/22/88)
In article <22387@sri-unix.SRI.COM> felix@AI.SRI.COM (Francois Felix INGRAND) writes: >So it is a big chunk of money IBM is "giving" them... Ohhh, BTW, who is going >to distribute the machine... IBM might give them some help, who knows? IBM recently announced that its service centers would be servicing all different brands of computers. At the time I didn't understand why anybody would take their Mac in to be fixed at IBM (except for companies of course) but if they distribute the NeXT, this could be an early indication. Isn't it neat how rumors can start on absolutely no hard evidence and much irresponsible speculation. :-) David Palmer palmer@tybalt.caltech.edu ...rutgers!cit-vax!tybalt.caltech.edu!palmer "Flowers -- Just say NO!!" - Mighty Mouse
prime@druhi.ATT.COM (Anthony Davis) (09/22/88)
In article <417@nikhefk.UUCP>, paulm@nikhefk.UUCP (Paul Molenaar) writes: > A recent usenet posting stated that IBM payed $10 million for the use > of the user interface developed by NeXt. > > It aroused a lot of curiosity at my end. For what machines does IBM > need this user interface? According to a September 19 article in PC WEEK, page 4, IBM is planing to use this interface for the IBM PC RT under AIX. The ad also discussed several other licensing agreements that IBM has entered into with NeXT(some were optional). Tony Davis AT&T Bell Labs, Denver Co. local: druhi!prime net: att!druhi!prime
mike@ists.yorku.ca (Mike Clarkson) (09/29/88)
In article <417@nikhefk.UUCP>, paulm@nikhefk.UUCP (Paul Molenaar) writes: > A recent usenet posting stated that IBM payed $10 million for the use > of the user interface developed by NeXt. > > It aroused a lot of curiosity at my end. For what machines does IBM > need this user interface? It has the Presentation Manager for OS/2? Right? Just speculation, but maybe they're hedging their bets: Maybe Apple will win the lawsuit against MSWindows, Maybe Apple the lawsuit against MSWindows will scare people away from developing 3rd party applications for it. Maybe the NeXT machine will really take off, especially if they've integrated X-Windows with Display Postscript. This could become a dominat window system. Maybe the NeXT inteface is just that much better. We'll see more on Oct 12. Mike Clarkson mike@ists.UUCP Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science mike@ists.yorku.ca York University, North York, Ontario, uunet!mnetor!yunexus!ists!mike CANADA M3J 1P3 +1 (416) 736-5611
tim@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (Timothy L. Kay) (10/01/88)
In article <216@ists> mike@ists.yorku.ca (Mike Clarkson) writes: >In article <417@nikhefk.UUCP>, paulm@nikhefk.UUCP (Paul Molenaar) writes: >> A recent usenet posting stated that IBM payed $10 million for the use >> of the user interface developed by NeXt. >> >> It aroused a lot of curiosity at my end. For what machines does IBM >> need this user interface? It has the Presentation Manager for OS/2? Right? > >Just speculation, but maybe they're hedging their bets: > > Maybe Apple will win the lawsuit against MSWindows, > [deleted] The IBM interest has nothing to do with OS/2. IBM has announced and will soon deliver AIX (their Unix) for both PS/2 Model 80's and 370/XA machines. They have had a Unix for their RT's for quite a while. The deal with Next will give IBM access to a "desktop metaphor" package to compete with AT&T's Open Look (to which IBM doesn't have access, since they are committed to OSF). Both packages are based on X Windows. IBM has a big commitment to developing AIX. I have used all three versions of AIX, and they are very good. Don't be surprised if their AIX catches up and passes OS/2 in popularity very soon after it is available. My guess is that IBM will eventually switch to AIX and drop OS/2. I base my suspicions on the fact that Unix exists, works, and is very solid, while OS/2 is a poorly-performing piece of junk put together hastily by marginal hackers at Microsoft. These opinions are my own. Tim
mike@ists.yorku.ca (Mike Clarkson) (10/04/88)
In article <8164@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu>, tim@cit-vax.Caltech.Edu (Timothy L. Kay) writes: > The deal with Next will give IBM access to a "desktop metaphor" > package to compete with AT&T's Open Look (to which IBM doesn't have > access, since they are committed to OSF). Both packages are based on > X Windows. My understanding is that Open Look has been submitted to OSF for consideration. I hope they do dump OS/2 for AIX, but remeber, IBM lives with more operating systems per unit of harware than anyone else (perhaps everyone else combined). > I base my suspicions on the fact that Unix exists, works, > and is very solid, while OS/2 is a poorly-performing piece of junk put > together hastily by marginal hackers at Microsoft. > > These opinions are my own. Mine too. Mike Clarkson mike@ists.UUCP Institute for Space and Terrestrial Science mike@ists.yorku.ca York University, North York, Ontario, uunet!mnetor!yunexus!ists!mike CANADA M3J 1P3 +1 (416) 736-5611