tom@iconsys.UUCP (Tom Kimpton) (09/20/88)
First, thanks to all the people who answered my questions on SCSI to ST-506 controllers. Ingredients: $35 1 XT-style case $60 1 150W power supply $165 1 Adaptec 4000A SCSI controller (with software) $21 1 Mac(DB-25)-SCSI cable $23 1 SCSI-50-pin header cable $400 80 MB ST-506 Toshiba drive ---- total $704 ~70Mb formatted Observations: I purchased the controller (with software) and the first cable from: Tulin Corporation 2393 Qume Drive San Jose, CA 95131 (408) 432-9025 and found that I should have bought the second cable from them as well, as it took 3 weeks to get it locally. The disk control cable that came with my drive had a 34 pin header connector rather than the 34 pin edge connector that the Adaptec wanted. The power supply was DOA. The Adaptec controller card wanted the single hard drive on unit 0, not unit 1. The formatter had some problems that some judicious use of ResEdit fixed. So... after about 6 weeks of finagling around, reading documentation, swapping cables, building/finding cables, cussing and swearing, it formatted in about 5 minutes and lived happily ever after (so far). If you attempt the same thing, make sure you get all the right cables from the beginning! Test the power supply before you leave the store (I bought mine locally, luckily. I took it back in and had it swapped in about 5 minutes.). Make sure you have all the documentation you might conceivably need. Notes: With this configuration there is no provision for daisy-chaining foreign drives. But then again, a second drive is a simple matter of popping the cover, mounting the drive in the second bay (this was a full height drive), connecting power, and connecting the control and data cables (you did get a daisy chain data cable, right?). One good thing about getting my SCSI-controller cable custom made, however, was that I made it long enough, and with another connector on the end. I've got a Teac 20ST SCSI cassette drive that the connector fits, but that's a future installment. While I was able to get the formatter to work, I was disappointed that I had to finagle with it to get it to work. It didn't help that the manual for it was 4 xeroxed pages that boiled down to: boot off the disk select a target from the menu select a disk from the menu (or edit one, this was fouled up) format exit Tulin adds 4% to credit card orders (but then you don't have to wait for mail to reach them or checks to clear). I haven't tested this for speed, but subjectively it seems adequate. You need to switch on the external power supply before powering up the Mac. It seems to see that there's something out on the SCSI bus and tries to poll, before it will continue to boot. Note this was done on (to) a Mac SE 20HD. Mileage may vary with model. If you do something like this, and encounter trouble, drop me a note, or call, and I'll be happy to help (if I can :-). "tousands an tousands o kilobytes! I fill em, I betcha!" "Are there any questions? Any answers?" -- Tom Kimpton UUCP: {uunet,caeco,nrc-ut}!iconsys!tom Software Development Engineer ARPANET: icon%byuadam.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu Icon International, Inc. BITNET: icon%byuadam.bitnet (multi-user acct) Orem, Utah 84058 PHONE: (801) 225-6888
Tony_James_Dellett@cup.portal.com (10/06/88)
Another good controller to use is the SMS/OMTI 3110. A nice controller for 3.5" hard disks. SMS is the company that formerly owned Supermac. I think the controller lists for about $110-130. Tony UseNet tony_james_dellett@cup.portal.com CIS 76117,741 GEnie TDELLETT