[comp.sys.mac] Timezone and timechange resources

sarrel@cherokee.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marc Sarrel) (10/13/88)

I was thinking.  Is Apple listening... ? :-)

Wouldn't it be nice if Apple added timezone and timechange resources
to the set of international resources.  The timezone resource would
simply contain the name of the timezone in which the computer is
located and the offset (in hours) from GMT.  The timechange resource
would contain the dates and times when the timezone changes (like from
daylight savings to standard time).  I think this would be a really
nice addition.  Also, there could be a new time/date format that
included the current time zone.  Really, though, any decent computer
system these days should take care of switching from daylight time to
standard time automatically.

Also, if you really want to get fancy, you could add a location
resource that would contain the latitude, longitude and elevation of
the mac.  This would fit in nicely with the map resource.  There could
automatically be an entry for the machine on the map of the world.

C'mon, Apple, if you can spend time to write the Map CDEV, certainly,
you can take the time to add a couple of extra resources...
-=-
 Marc Sarrel, Department of Computer and Information Science
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nagel@paris.ics.uci.edu (Mark Nagel) (10/14/88)

In article <24520@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu>, sarrel@cherokee (Marc Sarrel) writes:
|			          Really, though, any decent computer
|system these days should take care of switching from daylight time to
|standard time automatically.

Yes, it should even do this when Congress changes the daylight savings
time period arbitrarily :-)

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dmcintee@netxcom.UUCP (Dave McIntee) (10/14/88)

In article <24520@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> sarrel@cherokee.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marc Sarrel) writes:
>
>I was thinking.  Is Apple listening... ? :-)
>
>Wouldn't it be nice if Apple added timezone and timechange resources
>to the set of international resources.  The timezone resource would
>simply contain the name of the timezone in which the computer is
>located and the offset (in hours) from GMT.  The timechange resource

Make that 15-minute increments from GMT, or there will be areas of the
world that won't be covered. Take that from a worldwide express company.

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paul@unisoft.UUCP (n) (10/17/88)

In article <1002@netxcom.UUCP> dmcintee@netxcom.UUCP (Dave McIntee) writes:
>In article <24520@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> sarrel@cherokee.cis.ohio-state.edu (Marc Sarrel) writes:
>>
>>Wouldn't it be nice if Apple added timezone and timechange resources
>>to the set of international resources.  The timezone resource would
>
>Make that 15-minute increments from GMT, or there will be areas of the
>world that won't be covered. Take that from a worldwide express company.

	And make sure it can handle:

		- Daylight savings

		- Places with local times > 12 hours before/prior GMT
		  (such as Tonga)

		- Solar time (this is HARD - many Arab countries use the
		  times the sun rises/sets rather than 'mechanical' time
		  (maybe that's what the map DA is really for))

	And make sure it works with A/UX .... (which, being Unix, uses GMT
	internally) ... at the moment during daylight savings my system is
	out by an hour when I switch between the two different OS's

		Paul


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lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) (10/17/88)

In article <1331@unisoft.UUCP> paul@unisoft.UUCP (Paul Campbell) writes:
>		- Solar time (this is HARD - many Arab countries use the
>		  times the sun rises/sets rather than 'mechanical' time
>		  (maybe that's what the map DA is really for))

Correct.  The Map cdev (or something like it) was originally part of the
Arabic Interface System (AIS), because one of the Arabic calendars depends
on where in the world you are.  This allowed the user to enter his/her
location so that the calendar would give the correct date.

you forgot to include the ADB-compatible inertial guidance system, so the
user would have to reset his/her location each time the machine moved. :-)

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cyosta@taux01.UUCP (Yossie Silverman) (10/19/88)

In article <18916@apple.Apple.COM> lsr@Apple.COM (Larry Rosenstein) writes:
>
>you forgot to include the ADB-compatible inertial guidance system, so the
>user would have to reset his/her location each time the machine moved. :-)
>

Well, I have always wanted the following:  A small box which will report (within
meters) where on earth you are located.  The box does exist, in fact, but it is
somewhat expensive nowadays.  Maybe some enterprising young soul will work out
how to mass produce these and then we can have the 'electronic map' that tells
you how to get from where you are to anywhere.  Of course this box would be useful
in conjunction with the Map CDEV too.. :-)  It would go nicely with the 
Activision business hypercard stack too.  Imagin the executive no longer needing
to tell the stack where he is, what a time saver. :-)

Just joking. Or am I?

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