[comp.sys.mac] Data Glove?

gordon@idca.tds.PHILIPS.nl (Gordon Booman) (10/25/88)

Remember the Data Glove?  It was a glove that reported hand position, finger
curl, etc. to the Mac for **only** $8500.

Does anyone have any info on the product or the company?  I haven't heard
anything since last year.  Is it still available on the Mac?  Is it still
$8500?  Is the company still alive?  Thanks,



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tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (10/26/88)

In article <114@ssp17.idca.tds.philips.nl> gordon@idca.tds.PHILIPS.nl
(Gordon Booman) writes:
>Remember the Data Glove?  It was a glove that reported hand position, finger
>curl, etc. to the Mac for **only** $8500.
>
>Does anyone have any info on the product or the company?  I haven't heard
>anything since last year.  Is it still available on the Mac?  Is it still
>$8500?  Is the company still alive?  Thanks,

The price is right, but that's about it.  I never heard of one with a
Mac interface, though of course it's possible.  For more information,
see the article on advanced computer interfaces in the September 1988
Scientific American.  That Dataglove only worked with a supercomputer
that was also driving a heads-up (goggle-type) 3-D display.  It takes a
lot of computing power to do that with any acceptable speed, and
without a 3-D heads-up display, it's hard to see what a Dataglove would
be good for.  Touch screens, not to mention mice, are just as good and
a lot cheaper for 2-D displays.  You could do it with a 3-D projection
onto a 2-D display (providing an image of the glove in the projection)
but you'd lose the kinesthetic benefits.  And the display would still
take more power than a 68K is going to give you.  Maybe with a
transputer card or five....

If you do get any information on a Mac Dataglove, please let me know.
-- 
Tim Maroney, Consultant, Eclectic Software, sun!hoptoad!tim
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 restrained; and the restrainer or reason usurps its place & governs the
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mkb@rover.ri.cmu.edu (Mike Blackwell) (10/27/88)

Contrary to a previous reply, the Data Glove does not need a supercomputer
interface, and indeed works just fine with a Macintosh. It has a simple
serial line interface, and comes with a Mac application called Gesture
Editor which lets you record and define various hand positions and gestures
to control tasks. We have one (serial number 2, I believe) - it runs through
a Mac-Plus with a Radius accelerator. Works great, and is lots of fun to
play with, but the number of distinguishable and repeatable gestures is
limited. Now all we need is a head-up display...

		Mike Blackwel		mkb@rover.ri.cmu.edu
		The Robotics Institute, Carnegie-Mellon University

tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (10/28/88)

In article <3393@pt.cs.cmu.edu> mkb@rover.ri.cmu.edu (Mike Blackwell) writes:
>Contrary to a previous reply, the Data Glove does not need a supercomputer
>interface, and indeed works just fine with a Macintosh.

If you'll recall, I said the combination of Dataglove and heads-up display
with a 3-D artificial reality required a supercomputer, not the glove by
itself.  And I speculated that it probably wasn't very useful without a
heads-up display et al.

>It has a simple
>serial line interface, and comes with a Mac application called Gesture
>Editor which lets you record and define various hand positions and gestures
>to control tasks.

So it doesn't image the glove on the screen?  Or does it?  Does it also
substitute for a mouse?  The way you describe it, it sounds more like Mac
mudra than the device described in Scientific American last fall.

>We have one (serial number 2, I believe) - it runs through
>a Mac-Plus with a Radius accelerator. Works great, and is lots of fun to
>play with, but the number of distinguishable and repeatable gestures is
>limited.

Company?  Price?  Is it really useful or just a toy?

>Now all we need is a head-up display...

Just put your head REALLY REALLY close to the screen....
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