[comp.sys.mac] Virus Rx 1.0a2 Doesn't Detect nVIR

jln@eecs.nwu.edu (John Norstad) (11/08/88)

We're currently experiencing an nVIR outbreak on campus.  Much to
my suprise and dismay, I've discovered that Apple's Virus Rx 1.0a2
DOES NOT detect nVIR!  I've tested it against two different strains of
nVIR, and it completely misses both of them.  It fails to detect both
infected system files and infected applications.  That's the reason for
this posting - this fact may be common knowledge in some circles, but I
wasn't aware of it, and I think it's important.  

I currently recommend Interferon 3.1 as the best general-purpose
virus detector.  I've tested it, and it does catch both of the nVIR strains
that I have, as well as Scores.  However, DO NOT try to use Interferon to 
get rid of an infection - it does not properly repair infected 
applications, and will leave them irreparably damaged.  Use AntiPan and
KillScores to get rid of infections (see below).

I've also tested the AntiPan program that recently appeared at
Rascal.ics.utexas.edu.  It's an nVIR eradicator.  It seems to work well
in getting rid of both strains.  We're using it to fight our nVIR 
infection.

My current recommendations for virus-fighting tools are Vaccine for
protection (efective against Scores and both nVIR strains), Interferon
for detection, KillScores for Scores eradication, and AntiPan for
nVIR eradication.  All of these tools are available via anonymous FTP
from Rascal, and from many other sources.

Both Scores and nVIR have been around for quite some time now (about a
year).  Despite tremendous publicity and a collection of good virus-
fighting tools, they both continue to spread like wildfire, especially
at Universities.  I've been receiving tons of mail lately from people
asking for help fighting infections.  Please, people, get a copy of
Vaccine and use it religiously.  Practice safe hex!

John Norstad
Academic Computing and Network Services
Northwestern University

Bitnet:    jln@nuacc
Internet:  jln@nuacc.acns.nwu.edu

pv9y@vax5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU (11/10/88)

One caveat to John's article concerning nVIR tools.  While he is correct
about Virus Rx being next to useless at reliably finding nVIR, I can't
recommend AntiPan completely.  I've found in fairly extensive testing that
AntiPan fails fairly frequently to remove the virus from applications.  
I've found that Vaccination, also found on Rascal, does a better job, but
unfortunately Vaccination doesn't see the System or Finder and so can't
do a complete job.  Virus Detective isn't bad for that, but it is a bit
clumsier to use, so I recommend that you use a combination of AntiPan and 
Vaccination for eradication.  For prevention, both Vaccine and KillVirus
seem to do a pretty good job, although KillVirus sets off Interferon because
of its fake nVIR resource.  For detection, Interferon 3.1 and VirusWarning
INIT are the way to go.  VirusWarning beeps whenever an infected application
starts up and thus helps detect infections before they get a chance to do
much at all.

Adam

pv9y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu

cmccabe@cdp.UUCP (11/13/88)

<subject on Virus Rx not detecting nvir virus.>
Very true, interferon seems to be the best for detecting nvir.  A new
version of Virus RX should be out soon which will address these problems.

A note on Nvir:  When you have id'ed which apps are infected, the best
thing to do to leave interferon and toss those apps away, rather than
relying on the eradicate virus opiton in the menus of Interferon, as I've
had some difficulty making it go away without trashing.

Charles McCabe
Micro-Computing Support Group
Apple Computer.
AppleLink: MCCABE.C