[comp.sys.mac] 1.75Mb Mac Plus possible?

cnc@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Chris Christensen) (12/08/88)

from another note:
>
>The Macintosh Plus and SE both only have space for a total of 4 SIMMs
>(the Macintosh II has space for 8 SIMMs).  So to upgrade your 1Mb system
>which uses 4 256K SIMMs to 2Mb, you have to remove two of the 256K SIMMS
>and replace them with two 1Mb SIMMs (giving you a total of 2.5Mb).  As
>for the 120ns chip speed, that speed is fine in an SE (if I am not
>mistaken, the Plus and SE only need 150ns but the increased speed of the
>MacII requires the 120ns chips).
>

I have always heard about making a 2.5Mb Mac+ or a 4Mb one.
Can you replace one of the SIMMs to get a 1.75Mb machine or three to get a
3.25Mb one? Or is there something magical about replacing an even number of
them? It sure would be nice on my pocket book if I could upgrade one SIMM
at a time.

Chris Christensen

ecs175f037@deneb.ucdavis.edu (Greg DeMichillie) (12/09/88)

In article <870265@hpcilzb.HP.COM> cnc@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Chris Christensen) writes:
>
>I have always heard about making a 2.5Mb Mac+ or a 4Mb one.
>Can you replace one of the SIMMs to get a 1.75Mb machine or three to get a
>3.25Mb one? Or is there something magical about replacing an even number of
>them? It sure would be nice on my pocket book if I could upgrade one SIMM
>at a time.
>
>Chris Christensen

Sorry, but when adding SIMMS to a Mac Plus or SE you must add them in pairs.
That means that these are the possible combinations:

		      Bank A           Bank B
                   256K    256K     256K    256K     = 1MB
		   256K    256K      1MB     1MB     = 2.5MB
		    1MB     1MB      1MB     1MB     = 4 MB

It is technically possible to have this also:

		  empty   empty      1MB     1MB     = 2MB

although that would mean throwing away the .5MB that was already in you
Mac.  This is how Apple makes the Mac SE 2/40.

You can use third party memory expansion kits that piggy-back another
pair of 256K SIMMS onto the existing 256K ones.  That would give you a
total of 2MB but that is not Apple supported or recommended.  And you'd
have to throw them away to go to 4MB later on anyway.

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ephraim@think.COM (Ephraim Vishniac) (12/09/88)

In article <870265@hpcilzb.HP.COM> cnc@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Chris Christensen) writes:

>I have always heard about making a 2.5Mb Mac+ or a 4Mb one.  Can you
>replace one of the SIMMs to get a 1.75Mb machine or three to get a
>3.25Mb one? Or is there something magical about replacing an even
>number of them?

Yes, there is.  The Plus and SE have a 16-bit bus.  SIMMs are 8 bits
wide.  Similarly, the Mac II's 32-bit bus requires that you install
SIMMs in identical groups of four.

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