mikep@amd.UUCP (mike parker) (07/01/87)
I've been elected to solve a networking problem involving macs. We
have appletalk networks in Calif and Texas with both Macs and IBMs
running TOPS. There is a desire to transfer files between cities.
I don't want to suffer the speed of dialups, nor do I want to lease
more leased lines, the company already leases a lot of bandwidth
between sites. Most of the existing bandwith is dedicated to
ethernet communications over Bridge GS-3 routers running IP. So,
I figure the best scheme is to gateway the appletalk networks to
ethernet and take a free ride on the corporate IP links to Texas.
As I understand it, Kinetics encapsualtes in a proprietary protocol
for A-talk to A-talk communications, the Bridges will not transfer
this. The TCP/IP software offered by Kinetics is only intended
for client telnet and FTP, and so will not support mac to mac
file transfer. Besides, FTP is a little too unfriendly for most of
our mac users. My only hope is something called KIP, developed at
Stanford for the Kinetics box, I'm told that it might do what I want.
Does anyone have any information on KIP? Are you using it? How is
routing handled?
Thanks in advance
mike
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AT&T: 408-982-6772yvo@cs.utexas.edu (Yvonne van Olphen) (12/14/88)
My Mac II just recently been hooked up to a Kinetics FastPath 4. This is the software I have: -NCSA Telnet 2.2 -FastPath(tm) Manager -Echo -Look I've figured out how to use NCSA Telnet 2.2; I have the documentation for it. As far as I can see, the benefit of using it is extremely fast ftp between the mainframe & the Mac. I don't believe this is all I'm supposed to be getting out of the Kinetics box. Can someone tell me what the other software is for and how I get documentation and/or information on how to use it? There is no support for me here in the Dept. of CS at UT---I have exhausted all my sources here. Thanks, Yvonne -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | | Yvonne Van Olphen _|___|_ University of Texas at Austin CS Dept. \_|_/ Austin, TX 78712 | yvo@cs.utexas.edu -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= / | | Yvonne Van Olphen \ \ _|___|_ University of Texas at Austin CS Dept. / / \_|_/ Austin, TX 78712 \ \ | yvo@cs.utexas.edu (CSNet) /
ssh@esl.UUCP (Sam) (12/15/88)
->yvo@cs.utexas.edu (Yvonne van Olphen) sez -> -> ->My Mac II just recently been hooked up to a Kinetics FastPath 4. ->This is the software I have: -> -> -NCSA Telnet 2.2 -> -FastPath(tm) Manager -> -Echo -> -Look -> ->I've figured out how to use NCSA Telnet 2.2; I have the documentation ->for it. As far as I can see, the benefit of using it is extremely ->fast ftp between the mainframe & the Mac. -> ->I don't believe this is all I'm supposed to be getting out of the ->Kinetics box. Can someone tell me what the other software is for ->and how I get documentation and/or information on how to use it? ->There is no support for me here in the Dept. of CS at UT---I have ->exhausted all my sources here. -> -> Thanks, -> -> Yvonne Yvonne -- Look at running TOPS. It allows you to remote-mount a drive on your remote, so that it can function as a file server (depending on what kind of mainframe you have). For example, you can use a unix filesystem to extend your available disk space. Both machines must be running TOPS for this to work (I believe). This is what we have running between our Suns and Macs. -- Sam Hahn
falken@caen.engin.umich.edu (David R Falkenburg) (12/16/88)
In article <803@esl.UUCP>, ssh@esl.UUCP (Sam) writes: > > Yvonne -- Look at running TOPS. It allows you to remote-mount a drive > on your remote, so that it can function as a file server (depending on > what kind of mainframe you have). For example, you can use a unix > filesystem to extend your available disk space. Both machines must be > running TOPS for this to work (I believe). This is what we have > running between our Suns and Macs. -- Sam Hahn Before you decide to spend (a great deal of money on) TOPS, check out Columbia University's CAP package for unix. It gives you access to your unix machine's files system via AppleShare, provides print spooling in either direction, and best of all IS COMPLETELY FREE. -dave falkenburg -- Dave Falkenburg @ University of Michigan Computer Aided Engineering Network ARPA: falken@caen.engin.umich.edu UUCP: umix!caen.engin.umich.edu!falken
jfm@ruddles.sprl.umich.edu.engin.umich.edu (John F. Mansfield) (12/17/88)
In article <4046b3ad.1285f@maize.engin.umich.edu> falken@caen.engin.umich.edu (David R Falkenburg) writes: >In article <803@esl.UUCP>, ssh@esl.UUCP (Sam) writes: >> >> Yvonne -- Look at running TOPS. It allows you to remote-mount a drive > >Before you decide to spend (a great deal of money on) TOPS, check out >Columbia University's CAP package for unix. It gives you access to >your unix machine's files system via AppleShare, provides print spooling >in either direction, and best of all IS COMPLETELY FREE. > >-dave falkenburg >-- On a related note, there are rumours that the CAP stuff was being commercialzed. It is REALLY NICE and REALLY useful, lets hope that it doesnt get too expensive. TOPS is nice for small Appletalk systems but it is very expensive for UNIX boxes. Get CAP while it is still free!! "See you at the barricades babe, see you when the lights go low Joe, Hear you when the wheels turn round, some day when the sky turns black." Ian McCulloch. ARPANET: jfm@ruddles.sprl.umich.edu or john_mansfield.um.cc.umich.edu