artp@motbos.UUCP (Art Parmet) (12/07/88)
I am using RedRyder 10.3 with the xmodem protocol to transfer files to/from a
Unix host. Downloading 1k blocks to RedRyder works fine. Uploading to the Unix
host always results in 128 byte block size. Turning on the verbose (debug)
mode of the receiver program shows that RedRyder sends SOH (indicating 128 byte
block size) instead of STX (indicating 1024 byte block size).
Has anyone else experienced this ? If so, is there a later version which fixes
this ?
Regards,
Art
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In article <423@motbos.UUCP>, artp@motbos.UUCP (Art Parmet) writes: >. Downloading 1k blocks to RedRyder works fine. Uploading to the Unix >host always results in 128 byte block size. Turning on the verbose (debug) Yes! I haven't been able to figure this one out. Anyone know the answer? Should I just be calling GENIE and getting updates, or what??? +---------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+ | Anton Rang (grad student) | "VMS Forever!" | "Do worry...be SAD!" | | Michigan State University | rang@cpswh.cps.msu.edu | | +---------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+
ngg@bridge2.3Com.Com (Norman Goodger) (12/09/88)
Red Ryder 10.3 when uploading is looking for a CK, which is the way that Scott interpreted the specifications for ymodem and 1k blocks. The Latest version of Red Ryder is still 10.3. But Red Ryder 11 will probably begin beta testing in a few weeks for a release early next year sometime with a variety of new things I would suspect knowing Scott.... -- Norm Goodger SysOp - MacInfo BBS @415-795-8862 3Com Corp. Co-Sysop FreeSoft RT - GEnie. Enterprise Systems Division
stuartb@microsoft.UUCP (Stuart Burden) (12/10/88)
In article <211@bridge2.3Com.Com> ngg@bridge2.3Com.Com (Norman Goodger) writes: | The Latest version of Red Ryder is | still 10.3. But Red Ryder 11 will probably begin beta | testing in a few weeks for a release early next year | sometime with a variety of new things I would suspect | knowing Scott.... Hmm, pardon me for saying this, but I was one of the many who was suckered into the 10.0 upgrade, with the promise of icon oriented interfaces etc.. I believe the upgrade promise said something like "the whole ball of Mac wax..". Basically the upgrade was little more than a maintainance fix, with a few minor enhancements, and crippling throughput problems. With my past experiences with RR, I am left highly doubtful that a RR11 will be much enhanced over rev 10.3. I would love to see RR do what it was originally invisaged as doing.. but if it does, I think it will be too little, too late. I think this is a real pity, as Red was once one of the best comms programs available for the Mac, but has staggered terribly, while Mac communications entered another realm. Scott Watson, with RR10, promised what SuperMac/Lamir delivered in Acknowledge. Quick Plug for Acknowledge: Acknowledge is truly a giant step in Mac telecommunications. I've developed my own interface to our Xenix e-mail system with it, including batch mail, reading mail with a double click on a subject line, custom dialogs, notification manager alerting to new mail arrival, the works. Yes, Acknowledge is a whole lot more expensive than ol'Red, but for the functionality that I've developed with it, it's worth the price. | -- Norm Goodger Stu. __Paths to my door:_______________________ microsoft!stuartb@beaver.cs.washington.edu - Usual disclaimer, that all microsoft!stuartb@uw-beaver.arpa - the above is pure fantasy microsoft!stuartb@uunet.UU.NET - and Microsoft only [DE01HB]stuartb@DASNET# {from AppleLink} - gave me the Mountain Dew stuartb@microsoft.uucp {well connected} - to dream it all in a D2012 {AppleLink} - caffeine haze :-) __________________________________________________________________________
sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) (12/12/88)
In article <40@microsoft.UUCP> stuartb@microsoft.UUCP (Stuart Burden) writes: >Hmm, pardon me for saying this, but I was one of the many who was suckered >into the 10.0 upgrade, with the promise of icon oriented interfaces etc.. >I believe the upgrade promise said something like "the whole ball of Mac >wax..". Basically the upgrade was little more than a maintainance fix, >with a few minor enhancements, and crippling throughput problems. > >With my past experiences with RR, I am left highly doubtful that a RR11 >will be much enhanced over rev 10.3. I would love to see RR do what it >was originally invisaged as doing.. but if it does, I think it will be too >little, too late. [ Goes on to mention SuperMac's "Acknowledge" ] I agree completely. Red is a throughput dog, especially now that telecom speeds are exceeding 1200 baud regularly. From what I've heard, "Acknowledge" is quite good and very flexible; however, it is a bit pricey (still, not a bad deal for the power you get). For everyday uploading/downloading/terminal emulation needs, I always recommend Versaterm. For only about $79 it is very fast, can be used without flow control at 4800 baud (the speed at which I regularly use it), supports MacTerminal XMODEM, regular XMODEM, YMODEM, Kermit (TEXT and binary), 1k packets for YMODEM and Kermit, multiple file uploads/downloads for YMODEM and Kermit, and has flawless vt102 emulation. Also works very well in the background under Multifinder, and even supports desk accessories during uploads and downloads when running under regular Finder. Needless to say, Red's been sitting on the shelf since the day I got Versaterm. Yes, I like the product (a lot), but no, I have nothing else to do with the company. -- Steve Baumgarten | "New York... when civilization falls apart, Davis Polk & Wardwell | remember, we were way ahead of you." cmcl2!esquire!sbb | esquire!sbb@cmcl2.nyu.edu | - David Letterman
srpenndo@uokmax.UUCP (Sean Richard Penndorf) (12/13/88)
In article <40@microsoft.UUCP> stuartb@microsoft.UUCP (Stuart Burden) writes: =>In article <211@bridge2.3Com.Com> ngg@bridge2.3Com.Com (Norman Goodger) writes: => | The Latest version of Red Ryder is => | still 10.3. But Red Ryder 11 will probably begin beta => | testing in a few weeks for a release early next year => | sometime with a variety of new things I would suspect => | knowing Scott.... => =>Hmm, pardon me for saying this, but I was one of the many who was suckered =>into the 10.0 upgrade, with the promise of icon oriented interfaces etc.. =>I believe the upgrade promise said something like "the whole ball of Mac =>wax..". Basically the upgrade was little more than a maintainance fix, =>with a few minor enhancements, and crippling throughput problems. => =>Yes, Acknowledge is a whole lot more expensive than ol'Red, but for the =>functionality that I've developed with it, it's worth the price. => As soon as the average Mac user can afford Acknoledge, it will be great advance in Mac communications. And I don't mean at the same price as (well, just for kicks and no flame intended) MS Word. ...stepping down from soap box... I have to agree about Red Ryder though. It lost a lot of the "Mac interface" when it went to 10.3. The whole menu and dialog boxes scheme needs to be re-vamped and re-thought out again. It gets very cumbersome to use at times. (On the other hand, it is still better than any other package out for the Mac in it's price range). In addition, I find that RR bogs down at 2400 baud. I didn't notice this at first until someone showed me 2400 baud on VersaTerm Pro. I am a Red Ryder Host sysop myself, so I see both ends of Scott's creations. He has really good ideas, but he needs to work a bit on implementation. Somewhere between his programming and the end user, the interface gets lost. I am constantly having to answer questions about Red Ryder in my feedback on my BBS. No offense Norm, you and Scott are doing a great job, and I am sure that you hear enough of this in the FreeSoft RT BB on GEnie, but since it has floated over to the Net, perhaps FreeSoft will start to see that they are lacking in some points where if they fixed them they could really command the market in communications. Despite my occasional gripes, Scott does have some good software. Sysop of: Welcome to Macintosh BBS (405) 329-3352 300/1200/2400 Home of Ultimatum Software and Permutation Software -- Sean 'Longstride' Penndorf !texsun!uokmax!srpenndo . . .----------- GEnie: S.PENNDORF | | `---. ---- The WEASEL Project ---- `--'LTIMATUM----'OFTWARE
jay@mitisft.Convergent.COM (Jay O'Conor) (12/13/88)
In article <885@esquire.UUCP>, sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes: > For everyday uploading/downloading/terminal emulation needs, I always > recommend Versaterm. For only about $79 it is very fast, can be used > without flow control at 4800 baud (the speed at which I regularly use > it), supports MacTerminal XMODEM, regular XMODEM, YMODEM, Kermit (TEXT > and binary), 1k packets for YMODEM and Kermit, multiple file > uploads/downloads for YMODEM and Kermit, and has flawless vt102 > emulation. Also works very well in the background under Multifinder, > and even supports desk accessories during uploads and downloads when > running under regular Finder. While I, too, like Versaterm very much, and it's vt102 emulation is pretty good, I have discovered one flaw. Versaterm cannot do inverse-video Graphics characters! Versaterm has everything I want in a general purpose communication program/terminal emulator, except 100% vt102 emulation! So far, only MacTerminal appears to have flawless vt102 emulation, but it's too much of a dog in other ways. Jay O'Conor
leonardr@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu (12/20/88)
jay@mitisft.Convergent.COM(Jay O'Connor) writes in comp.sys.mac >In article <885@esquire.UUCP>, sbb@esquire.UUCP (Stephen B. Baumgarten) writes: >> For everyday uploading/downloading/terminal emulation needs, I always >> recommend Versaterm. For only about $79 it is very fast, can be used >> without flow control at 4800 baud (the speed at which I regularly use >> it), supports MacTerminal XMODEM, regular XMODEM, YMODEM, Kermit (TEXT >> and binary), 1k packets for YMODEM and Kermit, multiple file >> uploads/downloads for YMODEM and Kermit, and has flawless vt102 >> emulation. Also works very well in the background under Multifinder, >> and even supports desk accessories during uploads and downloads when >> running under regular Finder. > >While I, too, like Versaterm very much, and it's vt102 emulation is pretty >good, I have discovered one flaw. Versaterm cannot do inverse-video Graphics >characters! >Versaterm has everything I want in a general purpose communication >program/terminal emulator, except 100% vt102 emulation! >So far, only MacTerminal appears to have flawless vt102 emulation, but it's >too much of a dog in other ways. > I would like to point out that MicroPhoneII offers VT102 emulation which we feel is quite flawless. It offers not only inverse-video graphics chars but also FLASHING chars (both regular and graphics!). (Disclaimer: I am one of the programmers of MicroPhoneII) +---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+ + + Any thing I say may be taken as + + Leonard Rosenthol + fact, then again you might decide+ + President, LazerWare, inc. + that it really isn't, so you + + + never know, do you?? + + leonardr@uxe.cso.uiuc.edu + + + GEnie: MACgician + MacNET: MACgician + + Delphi: MACgician + AppleLink: D0025 + + + + +---------------------------------+-----------------------------------+