peter@aucs.UUCP (Peter Steele) (12/09/88)
A prof here uses Word for making transparencies. He wants to put a border
around the entire page with the course indicated in the lower right. A scale
model might look something like this:
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I know FullWrite can do this very simply using a background picture. The only
ways I can think of doing it in Word all seem cludgy. I tried several things
that work. I recommended that he make a drawing representing the border and
paste it at the beginning of each page, making it and the other paragraphs
on a page "side-by-side". This works, but the process has to be repeated for
each page. I tried to put the drawing in the header/footer, but doing so made
Word think the footer took up the entire page. There was no way to "overlay"
a footer or header with the text on a page, at least not that I could find.
My question is this: Is there a way to do this using embedded postscript?
Ideally, it would be nice if the border would only have to be specified once,
so some solution using the header/footer would be preferred. Note: I do not
have any Postscript references.
Actually, I told him he should get something like PowerPoint but he's not
interested. So, it's got to be Word. If any Word wizards out there know of
a solution, it would be much appreciated. You can post your answers to the
net but I would appreciate direct replies as only about 70% of the net traffic
makes it to our site. Thanks!
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BITNET: Peter@Acadia Internet: Peter%Acadia.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDUchuq%plaid@Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (12/11/88)
>A prof here uses Word for making transparencies. He wants to put a border >around the entire page with the course indicated in the lower right. A scale >model might look something like this: >My question is this: Is there a way to do this using embedded postscript? Yeah. If you put the following piece of postscript in the header of the document, choose Shift-Style from the menu and select the 'postscript' style, it'll print a box around the printing portion of each page. You can then use a footer to put the class name on the page as well. .page. wp$box stroke >Actually, I told him he should get something like PowerPoint but he's not >interested. Powerpoint may be overkill. An easier & more flexible option might be to borrow a copy of Adobe Illustrator or Freehand to generate the box (then you could use rounded corners and put the class-name IN the line). Export that as EPS, then load that into Word. Prettier. Chuq Von Rospach Editor/Publisher, OtherRealms chuq@sun.COM When you're up to your *ss in alligators, it's hard to remember your initial objective was to drain the swamp.
bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys) (12/11/88)
In article <1433@aucs.UUCP> peter@aucs.UUCP (Peter Steele) writes:
#A prof here uses Word for making transparencies. He wants to put a border
#around the entire page with the course indicated in the lower right. A scale
This is easy. I do this myself. Just put the border into the page header
or footer. I put it into the footer, and I put the chapter number and
a page number icon into the header so that each slide gets labeled
with the chapter and a running page number. The resulting transparencies
look great!
You may have to fool around with the margins but its not hard.
Bill Jefferys
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In article <81051@sun.uucp> chuq@sun.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
<>A prof here uses Word for making transparencies. He wants to put a border
<>around the entire page with the course indicated in the lower right. A scale
<>model might look something like this:
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<>My question is this: Is there a way to do this using embedded postscript?
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<Yeah. If you put the following piece of postscript in the header of the
<document, choose Shift-Style from the menu and select the 'postscript'
<style, it'll print a box around the printing portion of each page. You can
<then use a footer to put the class name on the page as well.
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< .page. wp$box stroke
<Chuq Von Rospach Editor/Publisher, OtherRealms chuq@sun.COM
I just tried this and it hung my system. There might be some other page
setting/margin size requirements. Just before trying the postscript
method, I tried the full page header method suggested in "Inside WORD"
(January 1988 issue).
Though Chuq's method is much simpler, I suspect that it draws a single line
box. If your professor wants more variety (any of the box formats like
double, shadow, or thick), or if the postscript method doesn't work, you
can try the following.
1. Set your top margin to -1 (or minus whatever). This is an absolute
setting, not a minus margin.
2. Create a header that is a full-page box. Make sure it starts higher than
the margin (e.g., the default .5 is nice) using Format Section to adjust
if necessary.
3. Move the left and right margins of the header out beyond the margins by
dragging. The idea is to make the box wider than the text.
4. Press Shift-Return enough times to fill a page. You'll have to do a
little trial and error the first time. You can see the effect in
Page Preview.
Basically, what you're doing is allowing the header and text to occupy the
same space by setting the top margin to minus x. The set of shift-returns
makes one paragraph which you format with the desired box style. To make it
easier, I'd set up a blank document with that header already defined. Then
do a Save As.. as soon as you open it and make one change.
Also, once you move the left margin to the left of zero on the ruler, you
don't see the leftmost text when you open the header window later. Just
press home (on an extended keyboard) or the appropriate numeral on the
numeric keypad (8?).
Of course, you can add the course title/page no. information inside the box
as part of the header, or make the box smaller and put this information in
a footer.
Shirley Kehrclive@drutx.ATT.COM (Clive Steward) (12/13/88)
From article <81051@sun.uucp>, by chuq%plaid@Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach): > Powerpoint may be overkill. An easier & more flexible option might be to > borrow a copy of Adobe Illustrator or Freehand to generate the box (then you > could use rounded corners and put the class-name IN the line). Export that > as EPS, then load that into Word. Prettier. > Great idea, Chuq -- but could you answer what is probably a stupid question for me? Haven't figured out how to get Word to grok EPS. Working remotely from a laser printer, and generally not an Apple one anyway tends to cut down on experimentation for result. Thanks, and sure others on the net would like to know, so posted. Clive Steward
chuq%plaid@Sun.COM (Chuq Von Rospach) (12/15/88)
>Great idea, Chuq -- but could you answer what is probably a stupid >question for me? Not a stupid question at all. The operation is straightforward, but not necessarily intuitive. >Haven't figured out how to get Word to grok EPS. Here's what I do: o Create the drawing. I use Aldus Freehand, for what it's worth. The same is basically true for Illustrator. o export the file, creating the EPSF version. o using your handy finder DA (DiskTop, et al), convert the file type from EPSF to TEXT. (this is the non-intuitive part). o Go into Word. Open the EPSF file, which Word will now read as a text file, giving you the postscript while leaving the graphic parts behind. o Convert the text to style Postscript. o Print. Note: you don't have full EPSF suppot in this. You don't see the graphic on the screen, can't crop or resize or any of tose goodies. What you're doing is loading the postscript, which happens to be an EPSF file, but it's dealt with just like a normal piece of PS. I use this all the time for stuff like my letterhead. Works just fine. Chuq Von Rospach Editor/Publisher, OtherRealms chuq@sun.COM When you're up to your *ss in alligators, it's hard to remember your initial objective was to drain the swamp.
jhenry@randvax.UUCP (Jim Henry) (12/17/88)
Another way to handle EPS in Word is to use a form of PICT file that contains PostScript. I believe that Apple developed and is promoting the use of this format and that they call it Position-Independent PostScript. Adobe Illustrator '88 can create this type of PostScript by doing an option-Copy (option-command-c). Word will read the resulting PICT just like any other graphic, allow you to size and scale, and print using the PostScript. Because it has a bitmap attached for screen viewing, it will also print on an ImageWriter. The downside is that I don't know if anything other than Illustrator '88 knows how to make this type of PostScript and I do know that several applications, including Superpaint and MacDraw II, don't know how to read these things. But it is real slick for moving from Illustrator to Word.
folta@tove.umd.edu (Wayne Folta) (12/18/88)
Correct me if I am wrong, but I suspect that you suggested changing the EPSF file's type to TEXT, so that Word would list it in its Open dialog. All you need to do is hold down the shift key and choose Open, it will then let you open ANY file. Wayne Folta (folta@tove.umd.edu 128.8.128.42)
frank@mnetor.UUCP (Frank Kolnick) (12/20/88)
In article <1839@randvax.UUCP> jhenry@rand-unix.UUCP (Jim Henry) writes: > >Another way to handle EPS in Word is to use a form of PICT file that >contains PostScript. I believe that Apple developed and is promoting the >use of this format and that they call it Position-Independent PostScript. > ... >The downside is that I don't know if anything other than Illustrator '88 >knows how to make this type of PostScript and I do know that several >applications, including Superpaint and MacDraw II, don't know how to read >these things. But it is real slick for moving from Illustrator to Word. Yes. I came across this accidentally but didn't realize it was a supported format. In using Curator (a program for managing pictures in a wide variety of formats -- PICT, Mac EPS, IBM EPS, etc.) to convert an Illustrator file to PICT, I found an option to "save Postscript" as well. This gave me much better results than just saving the PICT (which resulted in a really crude bitmap). Curator is from Solutions International (related to, but not the same as, Solutions Inc., which produces SmartScrap). Recommended. (BTW, it's a DA so you can find and convert pictures from within Word.) -- Frank Kolnick, consulting for, and therefore expressing opinions independent of, Computer X UUCP: {allegra, linus}!utzoo!mnetor!frank