[comp.sys.mac] Suitcase&Pyro updaters, Bob init?

du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) (12/30/88)

  I too have been unable to unbinhex the pyro and suitcase
updaters, and would like very much to have them. By the
number of postings about these, it seems as though they
need to be be re-posted for everyone.
    Also, I did manage to download and unbinhex the Bob init.
Now, what does it do???? There is no documentation, and I am
not in the habit of installing mystery inits! Can someone please
fill me in on what Bob init is?
Thanks in advance!

Ted Goldstein
Purdue University School of Technology
du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu 

kovatch@skybridge.CWRU.EDU (Scott Kovatch) (12/30/88)

In article <1427@mace.cc.purdue.edu> du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) writes:
>
>    Also, I did manage to download and unbinhex the Bob init.
>Now, what does it do???? There is no documentation, and I am
>not in the habit of installing mystery inits! Can someone please
>fill me in on what Bob init is?
>Thanks in advance!
>
>Ted Goldstein
>Purdue University School of Technology
>du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu 

When I picked up bob from comp.binaries.mac it was touted as a 
"True graphics interface."  Boy, was that ever true.  bob eliminates all
(and I do mean all) text from the desktop.  Filenames, disks, etc. only
have their icons showing.  The only possible use I can think of is if
you have young children that can't read yet and like to use the Mac.  Other
than that, I thought it was a useless piece of code, and threw it away
after about 20 minutes.

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hodas@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Josh Hodas) (12/30/88)

In article <361@cwjcc.CWRU.Edu> kovatch@skybridge.UUCP (Scott Kovatch) writes:
>In article <1427@mace.cc.purdue.edu> du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) writes:
>>
>>    Also, I did manage to download and unbinhex the Bob init.
>>Now, what does it do???? There is no documentation, and I am
>>not in the habit of installing mystery inits! Can someone please
>>fill me in on what Bob init is?
>>Thanks in advance!
>>
>>Ted Goldstein
>>Purdue University School of Technology
>>du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu 
>
>When I picked up bob from comp.binaries.mac it was touted as a 
>"True graphics interface."  Boy, was that ever true.  bob eliminates all
>(and I do mean all) text from the desktop.  Filenames, disks, etc. only
>have their icons showing.  The only possible use I can think of is if
>you have young children that can't read yet and like to use the Mac.  Other
>than that, I thought it was a useless piece of code, and threw it away
>after about 20 minutes.
>
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>Scott Kovatch					kovatch@skybridge.sdi.cwru.edu
>Case Western Reserve University			CompuServe:         76344,3477

Boy, you have no humor in you.  I love the Bob init.  Of course it's useless.
That's the whole point.  On the other hand it points out 2 important and won-
derful points about the mac.

	1) On how many machines could a 7 byte program effectively and reliably
	   disable all text going to any screen attached to the machine.  The
	   only way I could see to do this reliably on a PC would be to phy-
	   sically fry the character generator (and this would differ on every
 	   card).  The nature of mac programming (the toolbox) allows for 
	   clean efficient patching of the system.

	2)  On how many machines would you have been able to do ANYTHING for
	   20 minutes before throwing out the init???


Just my opinions.

Josh

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drew@cat18.CS.WISC.EDU (Shawn Drew) (12/31/88)

In article <1427@mace.cc.purdue.edu> du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) writes:
>
[complaint about suitcase and pyro updaters]

>    Also, I did manage to download and unbinhex the Bob init.
>Now, what does it do???? There is no documentation, and I am
>not in the habit of installing mystery inits! Can someone please
>fill me in on what Bob init is?
>Thanks in advance!
>
I may sound like a Scrooge, but DON'T BOTHER!  I innocently put it into my
System Folder and rebooted.  It was an interesing demo.  Any and all text
that was normally displayed, wasn't.  In other words, no program or file
names would appear in the Finder, and if I remember correctly, no text would
appear in menus (this last one might be wrong).  After seeing what it did,
I took it out of my System Folder, seeing as it didn't do anything.

I rebooted and got a Sad Mac icon!   I forget what the error code was, but
it sure gave me the shivvers!  I had to reboot from a floppy just to get my
40meg hard disk to mount!

If you do plan on using it, use it on a backup floppy system only.

Just a friendly warning.
>Ted Goldstein
>Purdue University School of Technology
>du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu 


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hirai@cs.swarthmore.edu (Eiji "a.g." Hirai) (12/31/88)

> >    Also, I did manage to download and unbinhex the Bob init.
> >Now, what does it do?
> 
> I thought it was a useless piece of code, and threw it away

	My coworker who comes to work earlier than I do downloaded Bob
Init and put it on my Mac as a joke.  Maybe you can save it for April
1st.

	Now, what else can we put on our unsuspecting boss's Mac on April
Fools, hmm....

				-a.g.
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cyosta@taux01.UUCP (Yossie Silverman) (01/02/89)

In article <1427@mace.cc.purdue.edu> du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) writes:
.
.    Also, I did manage to download and unbinhex the Bob init.
.Now, what does it do???? There is no documentation, and I am
.not in the habit of installing mystery inits! Can someone please
.fill me in on what Bob init is?
.Thanks in advance!
.
.Ted Goldstein
.Purdue University School of Technology
.du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu 

I would nominate Bob as the most obnoxious INIT of the year.  Its a great
practical joke to pull on someone.  Just drop it in his System folder.  The
only damage will be to his sensibilities.  He might panic, though, and do
something foolish, so best be around, but out of fist-reach, when he boots.

-- 
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National Semiconductor Ltd. (Israel)				- Saki
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du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ted Goldstein) (01/05/89)

Thank You ! to all of the MANY people who answered my question about
Bob init! 

Ted Goldstein
du4@mace.cc.purdue.edu