lsn@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Lars S. Nyland) (01/10/89)
I have a Radius Two Page monitor and am using the feature to get a large font in the menus (since there are more dpi on the radius). I also have been trying out a copy of FullWrite and I like it. But there's a problem.... FullWrite somehow manages to use the small font in the menus even though it (or the menu system) has sized the menu with the larger font, leaving lots of empty white space at the bottom of every menu. FullWrite is the only application (so far) that does this. Is this FullWrite's fault? Radius' fault? Is it fixed in a newer version of FullWrite?
sysop@stech.UUCP (Jan Harrington) (01/10/89)
in article <13009@duke.cs.duke.edu>, lsn@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Lars S. Nyland) says: > Posted: Mon Jan 9 11:02:17 1989 > > > I have a Radius Two Page monitor and am using > the feature to get a large font in the menus (since there > are more dpi on the radius). > > I also have been trying out a copy of FullWrite and I > like it. But there's a problem.... > > FullWrite somehow manages to use the small font in the menus > even though it (or the menu system) has sized the menu with > the larger font, leaving lots of empty white space at the bottom > of every menu. > > FullWrite is the only application (so far) that does this. > Is this FullWrite's fault? Radius' fault? Is it fixed in > a newer version of FullWrite? I've got the same configuration - a Radius two-page display and FullWrite. I think it's FullWrite's fault. FW does its own thing with menus - any color set for menus doesn't carry over to FW; the menus don't tear off (VERY frustrating). I suspect that FW uses its own menu routines, overlaying anything else the system may be doing. I know an upgrade is in the works, but I don't imagine that this will be "fixed," since it's a major part of how FW does menus. (Remember what happens when you press Option and drop down a menu? Remember walkdown menus?) As for FW, it's OK for manuals of 50 pages or less - in fact it's very good for that - but I've just about had it with books. I'm seriously considering going to Interleaf, even if it is the most expensive piece of Mac software around... Jan Harrington, sysop Scholastech Telecommunications UUCP: husc6!amcad!stech!sysop or allegra!stech!sysop BITNET: JHARRY@BENTLEY ******************************************************************************** Miscellaneous profundity: "No matter where you go, there you are." Buckaroo Banzai ********************************************************************************
siegel@endor.harvard.edu (Rich Siegel) (01/10/89)
In article <13009@duke.cs.duke.edu> lsn@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Lars S. Nyland) writes: > >I have a Radius Two Page monitor and am using >the feature to get a large font in the menus (since there >are more dpi on the radius). I recommend not using any of the neato-keen Radius features to ensure maximum compatibility. Since FullWrite doesn't use the normal Mac menu manager, the Radius hooks don't affect anything that FullWrite does. >Is this FullWrite's fault? Radius' fault? Is it fixed in >a newer version of FullWrite? The fault lies in both places; in this case, mostly with FullWrite... (At least in my estimation.) --Rich Rich Siegel Staff Software Developer THINK Technologies Division, Symantec Corp. Internet: siegel@endor.harvard.edu UUCP: ..harvard!endor!siegel Phone: (617) 275-4800 x305 Any opinions stated in this article do not necessarily reflect the views or policies of Symantec Corporation or its employees.
roger@homxc.ATT.COM (Another Technical Editor) (01/10/89)
In article <13009@duke.cs.duke.edu>, lsn@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Lars S. Nyland) writes: > > I have a Radius Two Page monitor and am using > the feature to get a large font in the menus (since there > are more dpi on the radius). > > FullWrite somehow manages to use the small font in the menus > even though it (or the menu system) has sized the menu with > the larger font, leaving lots of empty white space at the bottom > of every menu. > > FullWrite is the only application (so far) that does this. > Is this FullWrite's fault? Radius' fault? Is it fixed in > a newer version of FullWrite? We've encountered menu problems with Pagemaker and MacDraw 1.9, although none of them are exactly like yours so far. In the last stable edition of Pagemaker version 2, some menus wouldn't appear in the large font. In Pagemaker 3.01, the large fonts appear, but when I move up and down in the Type menu, some menu items are redrawn 1 1/2 lines above where they should be. Old MacDraw was even more confusing - the Lines menu displayed lines in "small" format but you could only pick them in "large" format. To get the line I really wanted, I'd have to pick an item 2 1/3 lines below the displayed line. Confusing. Roger Tait ..att!homxc!roger (201) 949-1136 HO 1C-313 AT&T Bell Labs Technical Publications Holmdel, NJ "Teenage Mutant Ninja Technical Writers."
cosmos@druhi.ATT.COM (Ronald A. Guest) (01/10/89)
In article <13009@duke.cs.duke.edu>, lsn@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Lars S. Nyland) writes: > FullWrite somehow manages to use the small font in the menus > even though it (or the menu system) has sized the menu with FullWrite does it's own menu management, and this is what causes your problem. I don't know of a way around it. FullWrite's implementation causes problems with a number of inits, cdevs, etc. that play with menus. Ronald A. Guest, Supervisor cosmos@druhi.ATT.COM or att!druhi!cosmos AT&T Bell Laboratories <--- but these are my thoughts, not theirs 12110 N. Pecos St. Denver, Colorado 80234 (303) 538-4896
kehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr) (01/11/89)
In article <696@stech.UUCP> sysop@stech.UUCP (Jan Harrington) writes:
<As for FW, it's OK for manuals of 50 pages or less - in fact it's very
<good for that - but I've just about had it with books. I'm seriously
<considering going to Interleaf, even if it is the most expensive
<piece of Mac software around...
On page 253 of the February MacUser, there is a short item about some new
competetion for Interleaf Publisher. It is a set of modules which only
cost $990 for all of them and you don't necessarily have to have all of
them. The basic software is called TechScriber (hmm, I have a business by
the name of TechScribe that I never use anymore).
Contact Mansfield Systems
550 Hamilton Ave., Suite 200
Palo Alto, CA 94301
(415) 326-0603
I don't know if this is available now, but it kind of sounds like it is.
Shirley Kehrkehr@felix.UUCP (Shirley Kehr) (01/11/89)
In article <696@stech.UUCP> sysop@stech.UUCP (Jan Harrington) writes:
<As for FW, it's OK for manuals of 50 pages or less - in fact it's very
<good for that - but I've just about had it with books. I'm seriously
<considering going to Interleaf, even if it is the most expensive
<piece of Mac software around...
Woops - regarding the previous post about TechScriber: "TechScriber should
debut in the second quarter of '89 and will run on all Macs with 1
megabyte of RAM and a hard disk." (Sorry about not reading too carefully)
Shirley Kehrhammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Robert J. Hammen) (01/12/89)
In article <3824@druhi.ATT.COM> cosmos@druhi.ATT.COM (Ronald A. Guest) writes: >In article <13009@duke.cs.duke.edu>, lsn@romeo.cs.duke.edu (Lars S. Nyland) writes: > >> FullWrite somehow manages to use the small font in the menus >> even though it (or the menu system) has sized the menu with > >FullWrite does it's own menu management, and this is what causes your >problem. I don't know of a way around it. FullWrite's implementation >causes problems with a number of inits, cdevs, etc. that play with menus. Something that *might* help is an INIT called FWP Diddler, from Fred Reed at IMI Software (the folks who wrote On Cue). On Cue doesn't work well with FWP, so Fred wrote the INIT which does some patching to FWP to make things work (for example, he claims that HierDA will now work with FWP). I can submit FWP Diddler to comp.binaries.mac & info-mac if there is sufficient interest... /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// / Robert Hammen | hammen@csd4.milw.wisc.edu | uwmcsd1!uwmcsd4!hammen / / Delphi: HAMMEN | GEnie: R.Hammen | CI$: 70701,2104 | MacNet: HAMMEN / / Bulfin Printers | 1887 N. Water | Milwaukee WI 53202 | (414) 271-1887 / / 3839 N. Humboldt #204 | Milwaukee WI 53212 | (414) 961-0715 (h) / ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////