[comp.sys.mac] X-windows on MacOS

ray@mfgfoc.uucp (Ray Lillard) (01/12/89)

The following information is provided as a summary of what I have learned
since posting a query reqarding X-windows and MacOS in mid-December.
I received many responses ( more than a dozen ) but most were requests
for me to summarize or E-mail the information I acquired.  I therefore
conclude that considerable interest exists and probably a good business
opportunity as well.


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>>	From uucp Mon Dec 12 14:26 EST 1988
>>	>From mips!ames!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!chrisj (Chris Johnson)
>>	Organization: U.T. Austin Computation Center
>>
>>	Apple should be coming out with an X server for the Mac OS in the very near
>>	future. The product has already been acknowledged in the AppleGram. It will
>>	work on top of their existing TCP/IP product, MacTCP.  The X Windows server
>>	will be called MacX, and if you want to find out about it, you might try the
>>	number for the folks in charge of MacTCP which is (408) 973-4667.
>>
>>	I asked my local Apple Tech-Rep about MacX and he wasn't aware of it - if 
>>	the folks at that number haven't heard of it, point out that Apple's already
>>	demoed the program at Interop 88 - so somebody must know about it.
>>	
>>	Hope this helps,
>>	
>>	----Chirs


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From: daver!sun!harvard.Sun.COM!mtxinu!bunny!uranus.gte.com!dcr0 (Dave Robbins)

>>	A little while back, I asked the same question, and got responses that
>>	can be summarized thusly:
>>	
>>	There are no products ready for sale at the present time, but there
>>	are two possibilities in the works:
>>	
>>	1) White Pine Software (P.O. Box 1108 Amherst, N.H. 03031, 603-886-9050)
>>	is said to have a prototype they are working on. It is said to run
>>	only on a Mac II, use Apple's EtherTalk card, and use only DECnet
>>	protocols.

An article in INFO WORLD, Jan 2, 1989 provides additional information
on the above X implementation from White Pine Software Inc.   They
have announced a product called Exodus which runs on all flavors of
Macintosh in current production.  It will run concurrently (well as
concurrent as one can be on a Macintosh) under multifinder and allow
cut-and-paste operations between the X-window and other Mac applications
running in other windows.  Based on the telephone conversation I had
with them the cut and paste activity will likely be limited to bit
images, that is one will probably not be able to cut a rectangle of
text from a Unix application and paste it as text into a word
processer window.

The initial release will support Appletalk ( LocalTalk ), DECnet
and TCP/IP.  Exodus requires all clients to use X11.  Shipments
are expected to begin this quarter.



>>	2) Apple themselves are said to have one "in the skunk works" which they
>>	shown at the Xhibition. It is said to be only monochrome, to speak
>>	TCP or Appletalk, and to be compatible with Finder and Multifinder.
>>	Apple is apparently not free to discuss whether or not, or when, it
>>	will ever be a product.
>>
>>	I have not at this point contacted either White Pine or Apple to pursue
>>	these possibilities, so I can neither confirm nor refute the above
>>	information.
>>
>>	(I posted this summary to the net after receiving the responses.)

I also the Apple phone number given above and after some run around
I was able to speak with a real live person who stated that MacTCP
will soon be a product which can be licensed to a site for $2500.


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